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Obama Pulls Combat Pay for U.S. Troops

By Javier Manjarres

President Obama’s latest policy outrage makes no attempt to hide his contempt for our military, as he is ordering that our troops serving overseas in war zones overseas are not to receive combat pay unless they are being shot at, or at risk of being injured by hostile aggression. A Marine who lives in Florida(also currently serving in Afghanistan) has just posted a note on Facebook which stated that he received a letter from his MyPay account that he would only be receiving his Hazard pay (Imminent Danger Pay) if he is actually in a hostile area and at risk of being shot at.

So I just got a letter from MyPay (the way we get paid in the military), saying that I will only reason Combat Pay while deployed for the days that I take fire or am in a hostile area. Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshit. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here… Marine from Florida (We are not posting his name for obvious reasons)

According to Military.com, and the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (H.R. 1540-7 Sec 616) as of February 1, 2012, this new measure went into effect, and soldiers who are to receive the additional $225/mo. combat pay ‘must’ be in immediate risk of harm. The measure is very specific in its criteria for receiving the additonal pay.

The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.

A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

  • Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
  • On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
  • Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or
  • On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.
The last bullet point speaks volumes as to the sheer stupidity of this measure. The whole point of going to Afghanistan and Iraq was for combat operations- Afghanistan still is a hostile warzone, and both U.S. and NATO forces continue to suffer losses in and out of combat hot zones. Insurgent attacks have accured throughout areas that have been deemed ‘safe’, and in areas where hostilities were not forseen.
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Javier Manjarres

As the managing editor of The Shark Tank, Javier was awarded the 2011 CPAC Blogger of the Year. Countless videos and articles from the Shark Tank have been featured on Fox News, The Hill, Wall Street Journal, and other national news publications. Javier has also appeared on Univision’s “Al Punto” and numerous radio shows, including being the weekly 92.5 Fox News' DayBreak with Drew Steele political contributor, as well as one of NewsmaxTV's conservative commentators.

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  • Glinda

    I’m confused. How is this an outrage if the Marine in question is in Florida?

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      The Marine is from Florida and serving in Afghanistan. He is not currently in Florida.

      • Ernie FU Pyle

        For a very long time, those who were in the resort areas (my term) of the Persian Gulf, Kuwait, etc., were receiving combat pay and tax free incentives too. That is and was always bullşhit. There’s a helluva lot of difference between being in Iraq or Afghanistan under the threat of IED’s and hostile fire, but there is minimal threats to those along the south shore of the Persian Gulf. Furthermore, until such time that the US Navy actually has something other than those pişşant Iranian patrol boats tooling around them, they needn’t get combat exclusion pay either. Pay the grunts who put their manhood on the line day by day, hour by hour.

        • Elisabeth Pratt

          Ya know what, as to your comment about the Sailors in the Straights of Hormuz, are you ON those ships? Do you KNOW for certain they were not in danger? No, you don’t. And quite frankly, unless you KNOW EXACTLY WTF you are talking about and have your facts straight, you need to sit down, be quiet and pretend you’re cool somewhere else. Just sayin….

          Signed,

          NAVY MOM

          • Ernie FU Pyle

            Actually, I HAVE been on those Navy ships as liaison officer. But I’ve spent considerably more time in actual gun-toting combat than your doughnut eating significant other, who sits in the air-conditioned comfort of the ship, with minimal REAL threat. There IS NOT AIR FORCE in the middle east that is a threat to those ships. There IS NOT submarine threat of any consequence to the fleet. All the threats you probably hear about are BS.

            I was grunt during Vietnam, and years later went back on AD and served in 3 other wars/police actions, and numerous campaigns around the world. My last duty was embedded with the Afghan Army in REAL combat, not that make-believe/what if scenarios played off in the Persian Gulf.

            So you can sit down, shutup, and color.

          • Willis

            I agre with pyle about the hostile fire pay. It should not be given unless you are in a hostile zone. If the ship or unit is attacked ie; USS Cole or in my case Bosnia,(yes we/I did come under fire there) then it could be paid out retroactive. I see vets coming into the VA daily claiming ptsd serving in bahrain or deigo garcia who never fired their weapon or even heard a boom. While I don’t know whats going on in every soldiers head, I do know ptsd claims are abused.

            Pyle is the animal mother of this thread btw

          • RonH

            Amen Mom….Amen

        • Old Nam Chopper Jockey

          The threat levels are always different in the different areas of a combat zone. I seem to recall a small boat loaded with HE stuff sinking a ship of the line tied up at the dock out there a while back. IEDs and suicide bombers are not restricted to certain areas either.

          I’ve been there–done that. 2.5 yeares of it. If they are in the Combat Zone, they rate the pay, same as flight crews.

          Redeye

          • Ernie FU Pyle

            The key here is combat zone boundaries. The current zone is so damn large,for no other reason than to provide credit to those who serve there for promotions, and combat pay helps to justify that. That would be like having Thailand, Guam, and the Philippines being in the combat zone during Vietnam, and you’d have to ask why. It’s gotten ridiculous.

            The other sad fact, is that when someone pulls a duty in the low-threat areas, it puts someone else on the docket to serve in a real hostile zone. Some colleagues of mine have been in hot zones far more times than others, who seem to continuously get the REMF jobs. And when it comes to promotions, the distinction of being in a real combat zone is not as clear as it should be.

            Furthermore, I’ve seen many of these sailors claim all kinds of PTSD crap at a number of VA locations, and their ‘stories’ are some of the greatest BS fabrications I’ve every heard. So you can expect a lot more of this when the ‘combat zone’ is as broad as it is.

        • Chris

          Hey there FU Pyle…

          US Navy here… Spent time in the Sandbox, getting shot at, digging trenches, fox holes, building contingency camps… For someone who claims serving in Viet Nam, to have an attitude like yours, I would have to cry Bullshit. Being on board ship, being in the air, being on the ground… a combat zone is a combat zone. You never know where you may get struck from. So get over it.

          You sound like just one more pissed off liberal panty waste, who actually couldn’t cut it in the military.

          People like you really give the rest of us a bad name. STFU

          • Ernie FU Pyle

            Chris, I did 29 years on AD, and never was a liberal, you POS. Just because I don’t believe every swingin’ Richard needs to get combat pay doesn’t make me a liberal, it makes me responsible, you Section 8 cadet. Most of the squids I met while in the sandbox were liberals, especially the officers, and without exception, all your goddamn Navy reserves. You should stay on your freakin’ boats.

            Sure there’s threats everywhere, but a big difference between the threat activities of being under fire and screwing around in Bahrain whorehouses. The USAF and USN had horrendous threats during WW2, but that’s not the case today. Only the PRT’s, MTT’s and ETT’s have the kinds of threat for Navy and AF on those assignments. Unless you’re in Spec Ops, CTT, PJ or forward, the threat is light compared to other wars. You’re likely a REMF, and never have been a gun-toter or did regular convoys. Being a fobbit, like you, is NOT in the same league as current Marines and soldiers in forward areas.

            Sandbox my ass, Kuwait, Qatar et al are minimally threatened, and until we go to war with Iran, the Navy has yet to see a threat like day to day Marines see, and has yet to earn their pay. Incidentally, I was on ship in Vietnam, and there was minimal damn threat there too. The brown water Navy, River Rats, they earned their combat pay, but don’t call those who are exceptions as being “typical Navy”, because they are NOT. You’re just another parasite who gets Sea Pay and wants more and more money, combat pay should go to those under immediate fire.

            If anything, most of those REMF pissants, like you, should get doughnut pay. They could also use extra soap rations since squids are always dropping soap in the shower, no doubt why the DADT policy was initiated.

          • James Mignone

            Pyle, don’t think that everyone in the Navy can’t shoot. I can, but only if you are running, never could hit anything that doesn’t move. Tell you what you get out there an start running, let me see if I can pick you off. There never has been a moment in my life that I did not have a firearm nearby. Yes I had my own personal carbines stored in the ships arms locker. By the way a gun is a piece to us Navy squids, no it’s not a piece of arst. An those of us who died while aboard, we kept their bodies in the freezer. The next of kin really wanted them back. Jim (3 tours, DAV)

          • exNavyNuke

            Well Said Chris – Thank You!

          • RonH

            Well said Chris, Well said.

            (Vietnam Veteran-USN- NSA Danang, RVN, Tet 1968,)

          • http://aol bob wurzer

            why do you call anyone who does not agree with your way of thinking a LIBERAL???? who are you to judge people ???

          • Hooter

            Persian Gulf has calmed down greatly since the days of the Tanker War, Operation Earnest Will / Prime Chance and Operation Praying Mantis which was one of the twelve major battles in US Navy history, largest fought since the Battle of Coral Sea. In response to Sammy B mining.

            Navy EOD are disarming IED’s, Seals have been fighting since the beginning. As have the air wings. BTW it was a frogman who put a bullet in OBL brain…

            Understand the argument between theater and combat zone

        • kay

          @Ernie: If you are indeed a Viet Vet…thank you and welcome home!
          That said, there is NO LONGER any “safe” area for our military in the face of cowardly terrorists. Do you remember what happened in Texas? Thankfully the other attempts at our military bases here in America failed. Do you remember the Cole? Can you be sure that one of those little pissant Iranian boats won’t be loaded with explosives and ram on of our ships? Again, do you remember the Cole?
          Our young American heroes deserve ALL and EVERY benefit that they receive. I am convinced that Barak Obama is doing whatever he can do to subvert our military AND our counrty!

          • Martha Skinner

            Well said Kay :o)

          • GregoryIncognito

            Kay,

            If it squawks like a terrorist Muslim and lies like the Koran says is ok to achieve your goal,and denies we are a Christian nation (re-our constitution) and prayer before opening of Sup Court and swearing on a bible in court and oaths
            then it sounds like a Christian Nation to me..

            He needs to have his passport updated to allow him to return to the land of his ‘birth’ unless he and the ‘fat-ass’ can prove otherwise which he hasn’t and won’t do..
            Be sure to vote, as I know ‘you’ will..
            I am a WW-II and Korean vet and hope I will be around long enuf to vote this ‘fraud’ out of my country…You and real Americans keep up the fight..Read and remember ‘history’ so that it does not repeat itself. Hitler was a ‘great’ orator but he didn’t have a tele-prompter like this shrewd sneaky asshole….

          • GregoryIncognito

            P.S. Kay

            I rode the old submarines…sacrificed comfort for the privelege of serving and was compensated for the inherent danger and dis-comfort.

        • James Mignone

          Pyle, yes I agree with a lot of what you are saying. It seems those who least deserve it get the gravy. However you must remember that plenty of grunts have had their arst saved by carrier planes. Don’t think that floating around on a bird farm has no danger whatsoever. I luckily transferred from the USS Forrestal to another bird farm. Forrestal, remember it? 130 men lost in a blink of an eye. Tell the guy who lost his arm in a winch, or the one who got hit by a loose bomb. Or those who got hit by the a snapped arresting cable, really big puddle of blood on flight deck. Or the electrician who got fried across the ships generator. How about those who fell over the side and were never recovered. Never forgot the guy who drove his start cart into a spinning prop. Have you ever seen anyone get their head pitched over the side, props are almost invisible when the engines are fired up. Have you ever gotten electrocuted by 3000 volts? I have, I lived, all work on any ship as big as a carrier certainly is dangerous. Have you ever climbed up a ships mast? I have, left my fingerprints in the steel hanging on so tight. Bird farms are floating bombs, what with all the gas, fuel, bombs and who knows what. It only takes a moment of inattention. If you haven’t been aboard during a hurricane and your ship was rolling past it’s design limits, well you just haven’t lived. Jim

          • Ernie FU Pyle

            Jim, I don’t dispute that duties are hazardous aboard ship, or in aviation, the flight line, whether as a deck ape or a snipe in the machine shop, but what I’m saying is that we have HDIP (hazardous duty incentive pay), and we have flight pay, sea pay, EOD and airborne HDIP, and a host of other incentive pays. Do they add up to what they should? Doubtful, but then my jump pay never was the reason I did it, I mean really, for $125 buck a month? My flight pay was decent, but that came years later. My point is this, combat pay has repercussion beyond the pay, for it denotes time spent in the most hazardous of locations, and it gets different awards and hence it affects promotion opportunities, for officer and enlisted. And that’s the ultimate issue, for we have had (for decades) what David Hackworth called the “Perfumed Princes”, those who made combat decisions but have never served in a combat unit, nor commanded one. And the Pentagon and DoD is still full of those cretins. And those are the ones who will affect how monies are spent, who gets it and what shape the military will take in years to come.

            So for those here who are only thinking of the money, that makes you a whore. If you’re more concerned about the repercussions of what these new leaders will aspire to, then you’re on track with what I’m saying.

        • http://www.MichaelZWilliamson.com Michael Z. Williamson

          Your attitude strongly suggests you are not only not an officer, but not any kind of Marine.

          While it’s true some areas of the Gulf are not currently a threat, they have been, and situations change. Revoking combat pay for Bahrain, for example, would be reasonable. However, Kosovo in the Balkans remains hot, with regular interactions, if not engagements.

          As circumstances change, this can be re-assessed.

          And please put your dick away. It’s not impressive, only amusing.

          • Ernie FU Pyle

            Williamson, you’re entertaining, but in a very modest way, like a kid watching a june bug on a hot grill.

            Not only am a retired officer, but I was a mustang and I paid my dues. I’ve got more combat tours and campaigns then you’ll ever get, for if you had those tours which I had, you’d likely not have survived them. I was a Navy Corpsman with the 1/5 Marines, so don’t piss on my shoes and tell me it’s raining. It’s doubtful that you’re personally familiar with enemy engagements in Kosovo or anywhere else.

            And quit watchin’ my dick, I never believed in the DADT policy of YOUR Navy.

        • Ron Myers

          My friend a USAF Chief Master Sargent was a post master in his dutys during 4 tours to Iraq and Afganistan. He carried a side arm and went from one post in Iraq to another to inspect the mail system. Took fire numerous times. I don’t know if he got combat pay or not, but he deserved it.

        • GregoryIncognito

          When are you going home you diaper headed asshole…

          Or are you gonna stay like your idols aunt of obama

          who don’t play by any rules except what you’want’..

          • GregoryIncognito

            When are you going home you diaper headed asshole…

            Or are you gonna stay like your idols aunt of obama

            who don’t play by any rules except what you’want’
            This reply went to the wrong person.
            I was talking about that anti-GI jerk who probably never has done anything beside ‘junk
            up his/her nose….

            The Mex drug cartel will miss him when he is gone…They will miss Whitney Houston a lot….Businesses only stay in business becuae of their customers..talented or not…
            Users are responsible for the drug business being successful…
            Do drugs and die !!!!!!!!!!

        • Jimbo

          You tell em’ John Wayne!

        • Jimbo

          In case you all forgot it takes everybody to win a war, Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. Plus all of the guard and reservists on active duty. Then you have the civilians working on DOD contracts. So enough of the Gung Ho bullshit already.

        • Gio

          TO Ernie FU Pyle,
          I think you need a trip to the Gulf or maybe a day or two out in the sand.
          You need to be wearing those yellow sweaters, brother.

        • Randy US Navy

          Ten year NAVY VETERAN here! USS Cole I was on you dumb idiot…I was in port Yemen when we got bombarded(a safe port at the time) So your comment on RESORT AREA…If you were ever a sailor, you must of been a very littl man talking that smack! MILITARY, No matter what branch your in are all over there in support of one another and should be entitled to combat pay. If there should be a change, it should be the ground troops should recieve double combat. So take your comment to your little hole you call home!

          Sincerely,
          Disabled Vet

        • John Smith USN (ret)

          Do you remember a little ship called the USS Stark? Floating along in the Persian Gulf. Look it up and KNOW why sailors get combat pay!

      • kage

        Hey ! Obama should have received combat pay, Didn’t he get Bin Laden and the guy from Egypt and the guy from Libya ? Obama is a tough guy and he only makes $500K for golfing and vacationing. What a guy ! What a guy ! Didn’t Obama want GI’s to pay for their own health insurance too ?

        • Rene Provencher

          No Kage, that’s also an URBAN LEGAND! I check fact all! NO HE DIDN”T NO HE DIDN”T check your facts first!

      • Hell No

        It said he is from Florida not in Florida..

    • Chuck U Farley

      You really didn’t read/or comprehend what the grunt wrote, did you?

      • Biffdavenport

        Chuck,

        I think you need the lesson in comprehension.

      • Johnny Mac

        Chuck, are you retarded ? What’s not to understand ?

    • bill bob-a-roo

      Unfortunately people like glinda vote!

    • JP

      Glinda….you really aren’t real bright….are you?

    • Christine

      FROM Florida. Read!!!

    • Sarasot John

      Yes you are confused. This impacts all military not matter where they are today for tomorrow they might be in harms way. Why is that so difficult to understand?

    • EDWARD

      GLINDA read things first,then comment. AS said ,from FL.,BUT in Afghanistan..

    • kristy wright

      it doesn’t matter if he is sitting with a fruity drink in the caribbean, it the principle of it all!

    • Steve

      Read the story, moron. His legal address is in Florida. He is serving in Afghanistan. Better yet, just shut up.

    • finance

      http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=67030 ,
      The “facts” you all are ranting about are misguided. Yes, your combat pay will only be paid on the days your in a hostile are. I.E iraq and afghanistan. The only change really is is that instead of recieving it the entire month when your only in country one day, it will be prorated.
      for example, if you are in country 20 days out of the month, you will get 20 days of combat pay.
      i have posted a link to the DFAS homepage where you can read more about it and have the facts.
      Please stop scaring your fellow troops.

      -us army finance.

    • William

      OMG Read the frickin’ article again please. If a service member gets deployed to Afghanistan or another goat loving region of the world and his home in Florida, he still lives in Florida legally.

    • Rene Provencher

      Urban Legand! Combat troops have never had their pay removed. Matter of fact President has done more for the troops then any other President. Check it out! URBAN LEGAND, try to find the soldier!

  • Den Hall

    The idiocy, the incompetency, the contempt of this administration is beyond description. There is no doubt that they will all burn in hell.

    • Bill

      I don’t care what happens to him in the afterlife, just as long as the socialist SOB doesn’t get another 4 years in the White House!! That is what scares me……..

    • Taco Bill

      This bill originated in congress, Obama didn’t have anything to do with it. The bill does not take away combat pay, it does pro rate benefits. If you are in country for 15 days of a month, you get combat pay for those 15 days. Go to the DoD website and read the rules.

      Don’t drag our soldiers into what appears to be a false propaganda campaign against Obama. Check Obama’s record on our military and Veterans. On the point that matters to me: soldiers and veterans, Obama has been good.

      If you want to criticize Obama, make sure it is fact based. Lies are uncovered and do nothing to promote your position. Lies hurt the liar more than the target of the lies.

      • tesla009

        Hey idiot, it’s $7.50 per/day, you obviously were never even near a f’n combat zone. This is a DISGRACE.

        • Vanessa Miller

          While I do believe the $7.50 a day for combat pay is a lot of ridiculous, do the math, 7.5 x 30 = $225 a month! I believe your the idiot. And no, I have not been in a combat zone, but my husband has been.

      • Liberty717

        What about prorating the Obama’s pay while he is in the golf course, Martha’s Vineyards or campaigning. If he is not at the Oval office he is not doing his job….

        • Small Gov Girl

          lol…best response yet!

        • Rich

          Why didn’t you demand this when Pres. Bush was away from the White House clearing brush at his ranch?

          He’s the one who started the wars WITHOUT funding them, remember?

          • Are you serious bro?

            Well for one the taxpayers didnt have to pay for his vacation at his ranch but every time Obama wants to go he spends $500k to send 2 planes and the entire intermediate family plus a plane for the dog.

            So a big difference there.

          • Whambam

            Good point.

            Bush has an “R” after his name, therefore he must favor the troops, even though his action say he didn’t.

            Obama has a “D,” therefore everything he does is filtered through the assumption that he MUST be soft on terrorism, even though Osama Bin Laden has a bullet through his head.

          • dennis

            Obama doesn’t know what a Corpsman is so why should he know what combat is? I do believe Bush knows

          • Johnny

            Rich,please, enough Bush bashing. You libs have got to come up with something other than the blame game, its getting really old.

          • Rich

            Johnny, if Bush isn’t at fault, then who started two wars and didn’t fund them? Peter Pan?
            Who are we supposed to “blame” the guy who started two wars without mechanisms to pay for them or the guy who is trying to get us out of them without us looking silly to the world?
            After 8 years of Bush neglect and/or mismanagement do you really believe that the US economy can turn around this quickly?

          • Boyd N. Allen

            You sound like the idiot you are! Have you forgot 9/11 2001? The muslims started the wars not Bush,dummy.

          • Rich

            Muslims started the wars?????

            Didn’t most of the Muslims that crashed the Twin Towers come from Saudi Arabia?
            Why didn’t the chickenhawks surrounding Bush recommend that we invade Saudi Arabia?
            Was it because the corporate gangster Bush family has extensive business ties with Saudi Arabia and won’t do anything to offend them?

        • azjenn

          Liberty 717, I like your response. Seems to me that someone should make it clear to O that these men are not in all of this for their health. If he cannot understand this, then I say, by all means, prorate O’s pay. He spends more unnecessary time on the golf course vactioning & campaigning than any other president that I can remember .

        • Stan Lee

          With Obama, the aspect of “doing his job” is a Catch 22.
          Consider the fact that he couldn’t do the job of President, that he wouldn’t know where to start even if he wanted to.(which he doesn’t)
          He fixes it so he’s absent as much as he is so he doesn’t find himself caught in any moment where he must act like he’s doing the job, thereby revealing his total ineptitude.
          This guy is the worst charlatan in my sixty years of being a voter…..and you know what?
          The laugh’s on all of the American people and he’s enjoying it!

        • Rene Provencher

          Assholes so much hate. Check out what Bush paid them! Yes I was in a combat zone dickheads! I got the same pay as if I wasn’t!

      • CavPltLdr

        Under the last bullet point in the bill that marine would clearly be entitled to combat pay if sent to either Afganistan or Iraq and arguably in many other overseas stations. Obama’s administration is being nigardly in the extreme (That’s not a recist term by the way)and denying such soldiers compensation which they are due. If you can’t see the anti military pattern in Obama’s behavior since he became a public figure you are as obtuse as Glinda.
        If your in country you should get combat pay, as little as it is.

        • Deadrose

          If you think niggardly is not a racist term your a redneck

          • Jim S

            Perhaps CavPltLdr should learn to spell (there are 2 g’s in “niggardly). You however should look up the meaning of “niggardly”: stingy or cheap. Nothing to do with race, just deep pockets and as we all know, pockets are colorblind.

      • Grunt-2

        Taco Bill……You have no clue about Washington politics.
        With some 70 avowed, identified Socialists serving IN Congress today, and the agenda of Obama (and those globalist who prop him up) you better believe O’ has at
        least some influence on Congressmen’s vote. Eight years
        of lobbying taught me a lot about how Washington works (pardon the pun!).

        • Rene Provencher

          figured your a dumb ass lobbyist. Free cash for your people. Screw the soldier. I worked DOD. If anyone disagrees they must be a socialist or a communist whatever, at least we aren’t stupid idiots.

      • Cookie Hart

        Taco Bill…..

        FINALLY! A voice of reason, while I could give 2 sh*ts about how anyone feels about our wonderful President, or if they are Republican or Democrat (or Liberal which is the perfect way to be:) I only ask people check out ALL the information before posting or blaming anyone for things they aren’t responsible for…If Mr. Obama did indeed, singlehandedly do this…. I’d be all for a new president… but did no one else take at least a High School government class???? I dang near failed that class but yet I still know Congress has way more to do with passing items of this nature than the President does. If Mr. Obama could just randomly pass things at will….don’t you think his “agenda” would’ve already been met by now… IT IS PURE IGNORANCE…to comment on these things without INFORMING yourself, find out all facts…… before you take out your obviously misplaced anger on someone….:)

        • Seasontix

          Cookie Heart – I love it – a liberal (as you say the “perfect way to be”) is blaming Congress for the mess that Obama has made. Yet between 1/20/01 and 1/20/09 it was all President Bush’s fault.

    • Lori

      Den, you got the contempt right; but the idiocy and incompetency is wrong–sort of. Obama knows EXACTLY what he’s doing. He’s no idiot. He’s an ideologue. He has a plan and he’s sticking to it, the American people be damned … because to people like him and Hitler, Stalin, Chavez, Castro, et al, the end ALWAYS justifies the means.

      • Rich

        I thought that you folks want to slash the budget?
        Shouldn’t everyone “share the pain”?
        You all want so badly to take benefits away from unionized workers why not the GI’s too?
        If the Bush regime had done the right thing and raised taxes instead of lowering them to pay for their neo-con adventures, we’d be a lot better off right now.
        Do any of you understand that you CANNOT fight wars and cut government income/reduce taxes at the same time?
        Can any of you comprehend that fact?
        Did anyone here pay attention in economics?

        • Catblaster

          “Did anyone here pay attention in economics?”
          You obviously didn’t.

          • Rich

            Oh, I get it.
            In conservative/teabag fantasy land, you can cut government income while increasing spending by fighting wars.
            Please explain how this can be done so we all can be as smart as you think you are, ok?

        • Ashley

          Thank you!!! I am a veteran and my ship would pull into a hazardous/combat area for a day so we could get the extra $200 that month we were simply working “the system” and they figured out a way to stop that good on them. Military personnel is still getting their pay but it’s being given for the time they’re actually there. People just want a reason to complain about Pres. Obama. What they should be concerned about is the new candidates the “right” wing is dishing out. And should be happy we got him instead of Mc Cain and Palin.

          • Cookie Hart

            Right ON!!!

          • Quinn

            AND ASHLEY YOU RAN RIGHT BACK TO THE PAYMASTER AND GAVE THE $200 BACK RIGHT ?

        • http://YAHOO KYLE

          yOU MUST NOT OF SERVED IN THE MILITARY AT ALL. i AM RETIRED AFTER 24 YEARS AND HAVE LIVED IN PLACES NOT FIT FOR RATS TO LVE. BUT WE GO WILLINGINGLY AND KNOW WHAT TE RISKS ARE WHILE PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF SIT AT HOME AND BITCH. SOLDIERS KEEP YUR FREEDOMS IN FORCE. PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL OTE FOR OAMAM AGAIN AND LET THIS COUNTRY LOSE EVERYTHING WE HAVE

      • CavPltLdr

        Right on.

      • http://TheSharkTank barbara

        Amen. You are so right.. He knows exactly what he is doing. If he gets in again. Hit your knees and keep looking up, because Jesus is on His way back.
        But there is no sense in talking to the blind, they will never be able to see him for what he is, until it is to late.

    • Rich

      Burn in hell?
      First of all, who are YOU to judge anyone else? Christian, are you?
      What about “judge not lest ye be judged yourself?

      Now, if we’re talking about people burning in Hell, how about the Bush regime neo-cons who started a war in Iraq based on lies that has cost thousands of lives? Who ever found the “WMD”? Why aren’t you judging them, you hypocrite? If anyone’s going to visit the netherworld it might be Bush, Cheney and the chickenhawk neo-con cabal that surrounded them, eh?

      • THISguy

        ah, there it is. quoting matt7:1 without reading the next 5 verses and seeing what its really about. i was baffled how you could be so blind with all your nonsense (or “facts” as you probably see them) but now i see. keep focusing on what you WANT to see and youll never get the whole picture brother.

        this isnt an attack by the way and once i close this tab i wont be back. but come on and wake up dude. learn all the facts before you bash the man that housed my wife and 2 kids.

        if YOU remember, this guy you love so much took credit for creating the team that took down bin laden. 3 years BEFORE that he called them cheny’s personal assassination team. a couple weeks before the hit, congress (cus i cant blame obama if hes not at fault) was voting on wether or not to PAY those men they loved all of a sudden.

        again, not an attack. you obviously have passion. if folks like you would learn the whole story before attacking everyone, we might actually see the “change” we were promised. i like you. like i said you got passion. keep that up brother.

        • Rich

          Just how much weed did you smoke today, brother?
          Your post makes absolutely zero sense.

      • Rene Provencher

        The HAGUE has free passes for the Bush admin. I have offered to pay for some of their tickets. No takers! Gee, war crimes, the Hague, sweet thought! I’m a Constitutionalist in case you want to call me names. After VN I say FU whiny arm chair wanna be fighters!

    • No Longer Confused

      In the meantime, we are stuck living in the hell Obama is creating and his INTENTIONAL systematic destruction of this country

      • Rene Provencher

        He did not pull the combat pay!

  • Lin

    This is THE MOST INSANE thing this administration has done to our fighting men and women, to date! OK, are they going to do the SAME for all our diplomatic personnel in hazardous areas? This Administration truly is trying to kill our military, and give them no reason to fight! To understand this, the extra funds, by the way taxable, are used by their families too, for the hardship incurred. I would suggest that ALL administration officials including congress, senate and the president, take a $50,000 pay cut immediately! If the reason is to save money, here’s a good one–they do not need the money, they are all millionaires already, their pay is simply toothpick pay!

    • John

      Yeah, just think of poor Hillary landing in Kosovo during the 90s. Getting Shot at as her plane or copter was circling in. Getting Shot at while she was accepting flowers at the airport. Getting Shots at the hotel bar to calm down and relax. That diplo life is tough.

    • Mitch Kays

      I wonder how many of you read the full military.com article or another source about this… first off this was part of the National Defense Authorization Act passed by Both the House and Congress and by Politicians of Both Parties… second it has little or no effect on the Infantryman… basically all is does is prevent Generals and this staffs from getting a full month’s worth of combat pay or even two if the come in on the last day of one month and leave on the second day of the next month for a visit such as a change or command…

      • Barbara Durham

        The Florida Marine that wrote this facebook post is infantry on his second deployment away from his family.

        • Rich

          The military’s not a country club, lady.
          Who began the multiple deployments?
          Do you remember back beyond yesterday, maam?

      • Liberty717

        You missed the point. Anyone who puts on the American soldier uniform and lands in territory outside the US is at risk of being harmed. Terrorists do not shut bullets they just blow people up. 9-11, the embassies attacks, the list goes on…. In the meantime Obama is asking congress to raise the salaries of the WH bureaucrats 1-percent. How corrupt is this? Just buying more votes while we nickle and dime our troops.

    • Taco Bill

      Once again the right wing of the party has tried pulling the wool over their follower’s eyes. Obama is not cutting combat pay. Anyway, Obama doesn’t write or vote on bills, that is the job of Congress. All this does is assures that soldiers get paid for the actual days in harms way.

      Were you outraged when President Bush said, “I want to make sure that our soldiers have the best possible pay.” then rolled back increases in monthly combat pay (from $225 to $150) and family separation allowance (from $250 to $100)? He also cut 164,000 veterans from the VA rolls.

      I believe those cuts went in force on March 19, 2003, the day we invaded Iraq.

      If the right wants to remain credible, they need to be truthful with their followers. Such false propaganda weakens their credibility.

      BTW, I am a G-D independent.

    • Rich

      Girlfriend, who STARTED the wars and refused to pay for them??

      You’re all so quick to blame the President for everything. Maybe you all think the wars can be paid for by some magic?
      I’ll say again, the spineless, ballless Bush regime knew they would lose support for the wars if they asked you and I to pay for them by raising our taxes to cover the costs of fighting two simultaneous wars half-way around the world.
      Admit the truth and you’ll all feel better!!

      • Johnny

        Rich, expose your military experience. I am guessing it is not. You are living in a bubble. What are you 40-50 years old? All that experience in life has given you the wisdom to spew your anti-war hate? You ranted about economics, you should dust off your history books buddy. Your leftist liberal ass is not speaking German because we waged war. And God only knows where we would be if your spineless party, starting with Carter and then Blow Job Bill and now Muslim BHO would have stepped up to the Terrorists when they f’ed with us back in the late 70’s and 90’s. War is Hell, unfortunately, its also necessary.

        • Rich

          Yes, unfortunately war does become unavoidable at times and you folks all seem to forget that the good Mr. Bush and his neo-con chickenhawk advisers chose not to pay for the two wars they started.
          WW II was paid for by higher taxes, bond drives, etc., but the spineless neo-cons who only like to spill the blood of others chose not to pay for these wars because they knew that if the American people were forced to sacrifice support for the wars would disappear.

          • Military Wife

            I must be lost or was asleep for a few years… People keep saying how Bush started these wars and couldn’t pay for them. I seem to remember being woke up by a phone ringing and my husband, who’s got 20yrs in the Army and 5 deployments under his belt, telling me to turn on my tv. Maybe I’m remembering wrong but wasn’t it OUR Twin Towers, Pentegon and how may lost lives that actually started this war? Seriously, do all you that bash on Bush think we, Americans, should have just sat back and allowed OUR fellow Americans to be attacked? Do you think that all the surviors and families of survivors have every said to themselves or anyone else “Gee, Bush sucks ass,he sent our military in there to kick ass and i hate him for it.” I’m all for an opinion even if i disagree with it but really? Do you think we should have sat on our hands and let our country be destroyed? Just saying… i don’t like my husband deployed or coming home destoyed but i’m proud of him and his fellow “Joes” every day that i wake up and have a chance to live in relative piece.

        • Rene Provencher

          Johnny, How old are you son? War is great isn’t it? Bush’s two wars on looking a photo shop pics. You don’t know shit!. Yes I hauled Agent Orange to kill OUR TROOPS. These wars as Viet Nam were wars for the American money making war machine! I’m non political! I just know ho started the wars, and who wants to end them. Bush pussy sure in hell started them without raising taxes or selling war bonds. Poor Johnny, don’t believe a word of your crap. You don’t have to believe mine. Maybe I’ll see you at my next meeting.

  • DeWayne

    this man will stop at nothing to turn the american way into socialism.

    • Taco Bill

      America is a Social Democracy, just like all other advanced democracies. Our leaders were wise enough to borrow some good ideas from Socialism, and rejected the rest. It is a pragmatic approach to governing. The Socialist pieces and parts deals with the welfare of the people, including protecting us from the avarice of the rich.

      BTW, one of the largest “Socialist” program was the development of our Super Highway system. That was Eisenhower. Nixon brought us the EPA. Lincoln freed the slaves. Reagan appointed the first “Czars.”

      • Zparqi

        CONGRATULATIONS! You have been nominated for a civilian CPP Award.

        You really need to drop your crack pipe, throw away those magic mushrooms and stop munching those armadillo tacos. A little time spent in researching the facts would seriously help in formulating arguments. So far you’ve scored a PERFECT ZERO

        America is a Social Democracy??? NOT

        The political system of United States of America is a REPUBLIC.

        Our leaders borrowed good ideas from Socialism??? NOT

        The founding generation’s governmental assumption of services (‘socialism’ the term did not exist) were EXTREMELY LIMITED to; Communications (post office), Military Defense, and Transportation (roads). The Founders believed in private enterprise, and ONLY those 3 areas were UN-PRIVATIZED, and even then only partially to enable private enterprise.

        Pragmatism originated in the 1850s and played NO PART in the countries founding, and you confuse it with practicality or instrumentationism, but regardless, its simply YOUR opinion along with your ridiculous ‘protection from the rich’s avarice’ assertion. The founding fathers WERE THE RICH.

        Eisenhower’s developed the Interstate system as a “Socialist” program??? NOT

        Eisenhower’s development of the Interstate system was a Military program designed as a component of the national defense system as far back as 1921. The Economic reasoning originated with the PROGRESSIVE Franklin Roosevelt in response to the Automotive industry’s lobbying in 1938.

        Nixon brought us the EPA??? NOT

        Theodore Roosevelt the Bull Moose PROGRESSIVE started the U.S. governments preoccupation with ‘Environmental conservation’, Franklin Roosevelt the raving PROGRESSIVE socialist created the Soil Conservation Service 1935, and
        the Democratic Congress created the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and the government’s role as the conservator of wilderness became the ‘protector’ of earth, air, land, and water. Nixon did not initiate the legislation, he ‘pragmatically’ signed it.

        Lincoln freed the slaves??? NOT

        Lincoln NEVER called for the immediate end of slavery.
        He advocated sending them all back to Africa in 1840 thru 1865. In 1863 he signed the ‘emaciation proclamation’ in a blatantly ‘pragmatic’ blackmail effort to return the Confederate States to the Union. The 13th Amendment to the constitution which accomplished this was not authored by him or passed until after his death.

        Reagan appointed the first Czars??? NOT

        Franklin Roosevelt the posterboy of ‘pragmatic’ Progressivism is the earliest ‘modern’ president to appoint NUMEROUS (17) unconfirmed ‘czars’. Such appointments date back to George Washington however.

        You would be better served by abandoning your OWS tent, attending classes by non-Marcusian professors, and trying to pass the basic U.S. Citizenship test than by spewing progtard idiocies in the public arena.

  • TaterSalad

    The only reason we can figure out why Obama is doing this is to bring back the draft because enlistments will be cut down considerably unless that is His goal.

  • TaterSalad

    While Obama makes a cool $400,000.00 plus per year and Michelle is spending like a Greek Godess, troops protecting America and His sorry a$$ are making minimum wage. Go figure!

  • kate

    I am in the military, and my understanding is that they only chnage being made is that hazardous duty pay is now going to be prorated on the number of days you are in country. It used to be that even if you were in country for only one day of a month you received the whole payment. I’m not an Obama fan, far from it, but I also don’t think that its as bad as this is making it out to be.

    • clayusmcret

      Kate,

      I read the article at military.com and I agree. I hope to God obama is kicked out in November, but this is not one to beat him about the head and shoulders with. It simply prorates the danger pay – more so effects the officers who would go into theater for a couple days and draw a full month’s danger pay. It also says that if someone is at a location where he/she comes under fire, they’d get the entire month. This is actually worthwhile.

      Bottom line: obama’s a jerk, but not over this.

  • karen

    Get that shit Shark out of there!!!

  • OEFvet

    I have  not heard of this piece-meal pay plan, I think someone is going viral with a misunderstanding. All of Afghanistan is considered an imminent danger location… They do not put circles around FOBs and say it is off limits to imminent danger pay. Besides, even khandahar gets mortared daily. So not sure this is correct. 

  • Dave_USMC

    This is nothing more than scuttlebutt. I received the same e-mail, and all it talked about was that it was being changed to a daily allowance vs. a monthly one. What that means is that under the old rules, if you spent one day out of that month in a area that rates the allowance you received the full monthly allowance of $225. Now, you will receive a prorated amount specific to the actual number of day you were in the area for that month. Example: You arive in country on the 15th of January 2012 and leave 5 September 2012. You will receive a portion of the $225 that represents the 16th-31st of Jan, 7 full months of $225, and a prorated amount for the 1st-5th of September. Nothing else has changed.

    • George Corbett

      Dave,

      You’re right on point here. I don’t care for the current Commander In Chief, but this is simply an adminstrative issue.

      George

      • http://discus sid

        Finally some reason to this subject… BUT I wonder how many civ government types in hostile nations with riots will get the pay, etc, etc, same for the Hilary types and all our congress members and staffers on ‘Investation trips, any where”, perhaps even in OCCUPY ZONES IN USA????

    • tesla009

      I got an idea…how about we just don’t make up f’n positions for useless scumbag officers and SNCO’s that spend their time driving golf balls, talking on SAT phones, watching entire series of ‘The Wire’ and getting paid 4 times the amount of the guys doing actual work.

  • James Early

    This is an outrage plain and simple. Sure the guy here in Florida may not be in danger but he is not speaking for himself about pay he wouldn’t normally get right now. He is speaking for his brothers and sisters in supposedly “safe zones”. There is no such thing as a safe zone when your overseas in a country were a war is going on. If your there you deserve the pay plain and simple.no you may not be getting shot at and no you may not have to look for IED’s in the road ahead but that doesn’t mean your safe. With the mountains and open terrain in these areas it is easy for a small group of people wanting to kill you to get past anything you set up to stop them and then your in danger. The government needs to stop fucking around and do whats right for our troops. They are already making it harder for their families to get medical care soon unless it’s by a cheap ass non school having military doctor they won’t be able to get medical treatment because they are cutting the already low rates they pay doctors. Soon this country will be nothing more than rubble if this keeps up when were attacked our men and women who support and defend us won’t bother they get nothing but hardships and bullshit out of it.

    • read before you post

      Read the comment above. This policy is for folks not serving in a hostile area, like Kuwait. And it outlines the dates for receiving HDP. If you show up on the 31st and leave on the 1st you get two days of HDP, not two months like in the past. The people who are really going to be hurt are the AF who fly in and fly out (without seeing any hostilities), but receive $450 in HDP for being on the ground at a very secure airport for a few hours. It is saving our tax dollars so we can do smarter things for the troops.

      “OBAMA” didn’t make the policy, the DOD did and it started with the camo wearers. And anyone saying that Obama does not support the military is a moron and needs to look at all the things that our President, VP, Senate and House do for us. Sure they can’t please everyone all the time, but they do their best!

      And for all those who say Obama is getting the troops killed, remember it was Bush that sent us in for the WMDs (never found) and to kill OBL (who was not in Afghanistan) and it’s Obama who is getting us back home!

      PS Military.com is the tabloid paper for the military, it should have a magazine near the checkout in a grocery store next to the “Look who put on a couple pounds or snorted coke” mags. It should never be “quoted”, go to the source (shown below)

      And for the Marine that posted the FB message starting this, you are just adding fuel to the “dumb Marine” fire. You will not be losing any pay when out ground pounding, but you will only get the pay for the days you are there, not the other 30 days of the month when you are back in Florida….

      • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

        The soldier in question is currently stationed in Afghanistan.

  • William Thompson

    Maybe they should send the “bean counters” in Washington to these areas to personally determine if a war zone really is a war zone.! It’s very easy to make decisions from within the Beltway that affect our troops in harm’s way but maybe a tour in the sandbox might give them a better understanding of how the money is earned.

  • Rose

    Hey soldiers that voted for Obama… How you like him now?!!! Be careful what you wish for… You just might get it.

  • Ohio Dan

    Why give them guns if they’re not being shot at. That would save money. This is just more BS from the traitor in chief.

    • tesla009

      Yea, if they didn’t issue $1,500 M16a4’s and M-4’s to office clerks, Air conditioning techs, and supply it would save more than ‘pro-rating’ $7.50 a day. Just taking one away would pay a 6 month deployment of hostile fire pay.

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  • Bill MacQuoid

    He and his Senate are toast in twelve. Hopefully, then we can return to some sort of sanity in this nation. God Bless our troops.

  • K scott

    Ya gotta love the way they blame this one on the president. Congress, led by the Tea Party House, passed the bill before the president signed it. That’s how our gov’t works. If it weren’t for the Tea Party refusing to take away tax breaks for the corporate wealthy, we wouldn’t have to make these cuts. It turns out that when you look at what taxes actually pay for, we need this stuff afterall. But the Tea Party would rather make multi-millionaires richer than pay soldiers or maintain a functional society.

    • Dakota

      ” The Tea Party refusing to take away tax breaks for the corporate wealthy” Interesting comment but I have heard it before. Lets stick to facts, the “rich” have the option to live anywhere. If they leave the US, their tax dollars will go with them. Do tell, who will then foot the bill for the out of control spending. The Tea Party has nothing to do with Corp America not paying more taxes, the issue was job loss if the taxes were raised since US Corp Taxes are the highest in the World.
      FYI, Buffett, Soros and all the Hollywood Wealthy are free to donate to the US Treasury, where are they, do they not care about a “functional society”

      • Rich

        Dakota, you’re an idiot.

        • Bill_B

          Name calling, the number one scourge of the left.
          Sad, so sad.

          • Rich

            Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

    • Liberty717

      If congress passed this bill, our commander and chief should have vetoed. He did not have any trouble refusing the Keystone pipeline when the environmentalists asked him to. This only shows that he does not have any regard for our troops or our country. A little fish, a turtle, a bird are more important to him that Americans having jobs to feed their families and soldiers getting pay enough so that their families don’t have to get food stamps.

    • tesla009

      You obviously have NO CLUE what the Tea Party stands for.

      • Rich

        It stands for dumb, dumber and dumbest.
        Most of you have no clues as to how things really work, just a shared hysteria about spending and having a Black Man in the White House.
        Admit it.

        • Bill_B

          Knock knock knock, anyone home? WHITE America elected obama, you know, on all the ‘hope & change’ hype, American Idol mentality, nothing more, nothing less.

        • Doc

          Rich is there a lucid tract to your inane diatribe? It appears that you have got no clue what your talking about except of course for the “Leftist talking points” For most people that disagree with “your savior” is not for the color of his skin, but rather the lack of character he displays. You on the other hand sound like a parrot and a brain dead one at that. Please tell the general audience here that you infact have not bred yet, your inability to advance the conversation is so telling it hurts.
          Not that it makes a difference but your posts and love for thug unions is living proof that keeping incest a crime should be a primary goal of every true constitution loving American.

          • Rich

            !. Jesus is my saviour, smart guy, not President Obama.
            2. The conversation is not being advanced because you cannot grasp anything other than fear.
            3. Knocking unions and American working people is anti-American so quit it. It is obviously motivated by jealousy because you don’t have the skills and intelligence level to be a skilled union worker. Sorry, I guess you had to live with low wages, poor or no health care and an unsecured pension.
            4. I always heard that folks like you are the incestuous ones and the ones with a liking for farm animals as well!! Is that where your obsession comes from?
            Get you head out of Rush’s armpit and breathe a little bit, OK?

  • Nemesister

    There is special place in Hell for Obama and his flunkies.

    • Rich

      Hell?
      What about the neo-con chickenhawks who STARTED the wars and never set up funding to pay for the wars?
      Most of you are lucky you can remember yesterday.
      If the wars had been fully funded by the Bush regime things would be better now for EVERYONE.
      Get the tea out of your head and think a little bit for yourself, OK?

      • Ugh!

        I am SO tired of hearing NEO-CON in all of Rich’s comments, I could barf. Go learn a few new words you idiot and while you are at it, learn something worthwhile about the issues you speak of. Ignorance is never an excuse!

        • Rich

          If ignorance is not excuse, why do you use it so well?
          If Bush’s cabal wasn’t “neo-con”, how would you describe them?
          Is “chickenhawk” a better descriptive term? Fascist maybe?
          You’re refusing to admit that it is IMPOSSIBLE to fight and fund wars while decreasing the government’s income.
          IMPOSSIBLE!! You can’t argue this point unless you live in some fantasy world.

  • Bro

    They pay is still the same as it was before..However you are only paid for the days you are in the authorized areas. We used to get paid for the entire month even if we were only their for one day of the month (Say we left on Jan 1st, paid for the entire month). Its now prorated. So when the Airforce fly’s in to Bagram on 27th and heads back to wherever on the 3rd, they are only paid for the few days, not entire two months.

    • Rich

      No offense, but has ANYONE ever joined the military for the incredible pay?

  • matt

    this story will be buried by the liberal left-wing media; well, romney and other candidates better announce this outrage and incorporate into their strategies; it’s egregious and outrages that this president could possibly have approved this change; maybe he and his queen michelle can tighten their belts with their frivolous spending on tax-payers’ money.

  • Sierra

    clearly, kate is the ONLY one who read and understood what this act actually does. All of you who are commenting that Obama is cutting all of the benefits to those deployed in a war zone such as Afghanistan are completely incompetent. The writer of this article is also completely incompetent, IMO. NOWHERE does this article say they’re cutting combat WHEN SERVING IN A COMBAT ZONE. This act simply says that they’re only paid combat pay WHILE IN A COMBAT zone! Meaning while in transition (i.e. Germany, alaska, etc..) and while sitting on a FOB in somewhere like KUWAIT they are not receiving hostile fire/combat pay- very simply, because they’re not in combat! My husband is a soldier and Afghanistan and Iraq veteran who has served 3 tours of duty in a combat zone. He’s been saying all along that those sitting comfortably on a FOB in Kuwait and other NON COMBAT areas shouldn’t be receiving the same pay that he receives when he’s actually in a dangerous zone.

    Pull your heads out of your asses people. Do your research rather than idly sitting around and buying into the propagandist way that this article has been written. Obama fan or not. Seriously.

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      Sierra, ummm, that is what the article reads-did you notice the link to the Defense Act? And did you notice that the article only specifically points out the Imminent Danger pay. Perhaps you need to pull your head out of your…

  • Whoami

    I am a military wife and I did vote for Obama and I stand by my decision. People were unhappy with Clinton and bush just as they are unhappy with him and I’m sure people will be unhappy with the next president too. Can’t please everyone. If you don’t like it then work hard and educate yourself and when it’s your turn run for president.

    • Pacamomma

      Dont you know a commie when you see one. This so called Pres. has been shiting all over our military and you stand by him.? You better open your eyes lady. You just shit all over our military too. You can go straight to hell with obama and his Bildeburg, Halliburton ass.
      Educate yourself.

    • vance miller

      Sitting comfortably in an FOB, and a SCUD missile comes flying in filled with Sarin gas, I guess we all forgot about Desert Storm. Maybe we forgot about Somalia when the skinny’s got done getting high off their Khat and go driving down the street and pop a few rounds at the university windows. What’s supposed to happen then, squad leader determines who was most endangered? I know according to all these comments that everyone has forgot about Haiti and the troop standing around guarding food with three rounds and gets bum rushed by a mob, trampled, hit with 2×4’s, yea those guys don’t deserve an extra $225 a month do they? You don’t think Ovarmit holds the military in contempt? What about when he wanted to have the troops use their private insurance for injuries incurred in the military after they got out and was arrogant enough to say, “nobody made these guys go to war.” If they are going to pro-rate it, then somebodies pay is going to get messed up. He just created a book keeping nightmare that in the long run is going to cost more than $225/mo per troop in theater to keep track of. Now ask yourself this, would he do this to Andy Stern’s SEIU employees? If SEIU shift differential was yanked it would be front page news and you would hear about it on the MSM for a week. If Ovarmit, a guy that probably didn’t even play Army growing up, isn’t going to stand behind our troops, may he should try standing in front of them.

  • Kay Gordon

    Please go to the following website below and read for yourselves what that bill actually does. Please do not believe everything you read without first checking it out for yourselves. Congress passes this stuff. Congress and the H.R. comes up with this stuff and gives it to the President. Don’t only blame him, blame the Senators and US Reps in your areas. Know how your government works before passing judgement on the President. I am a proud Republican and I know for a fact the above information is very misleading. We are being mislead by many of our own and I am sick and tired of being lied to on a daily basis. Do the research for yourself and you will know the truth.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

    SEC. 616. MODIFICATION OF QUALIFYING PERIOD FOR PAYMENT OF
    HOSTILE FIRE AND IMMINENT DANGER SPECIAL PAY AND
    HAZARDOUS DUTY SPECIAL PAY.
    (a) HOSTILE FIRE AND IMMINENT DANGER PAY.—Section 310
    of title 37, United States Code, is amended—
    (1) in subsection (a), by striking ‘‘for any month or portion
    of a month’’ and inserting ‘‘for any day or portion of a day’’;
    (2) by striking subsection (b) and inserting the following
    new subsection (b):
    ‘‘(b) SPECIAL PAY AMOUNT.—(1) Except as provided in paragraph
    (2), the amount of special pay authorized by subsection
    (a) for qualifying service during a day or portion of a day shall
    be the amount equal to 1/30th of the maximum monthly amount
    of special pay payable to a member as specified in paragraph
    (3).
    ‘‘(2) In the case of a member who is exposed to hostile fire
    or a hostile mine explosion event in or for a day or portion of
    a day, the Secretary concerned may, at the election of the Secretary,
    pay the member special pay under subsection (a) for such service
    in an amount not to exceed the maximum monthly amount of
    special pay payable to a member as specified in paragraph (3).
    ‘‘(3) The maximum monthly amount of special pay payable
    to a member under this subsection for any month is $225.’’.
    (3) in subsection (c)(1), by inserting ‘‘for any day (or portion
    of a day) of’’ before ‘‘not more than three additional months’’;
    and
    (4) in subsection (d)(2), by striking ‘‘any month’’ and
    inserting ‘‘any day’’.
    (b) HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY.—Section 351(c)(2) of such title is
    amended by striking ‘‘receipt of hazardous duty pay,’’ and all that
    follows and inserting ‘‘receipt of hazardous duty pay—
    ‘‘(A) in the case of hazardous duty pay payable under
    paragraph (1) of subsection (a), the Secretary concerned—
    ‘‘(i) shall prorate the payment amount to reflect
    the duration of the member’s actual qualifying service
    during the month; or
    ‘‘(ii) in the case of a member who is exposed to
    hostile fire or an explosion of a hostile explosive device
    in or for a day or portion of a day, may, at the election
    of the Secretary, pay the member hazardous duty pay
    in an amount not to exceed the entire amount of hazardous
    duty pay that would be payable to the member
    under such paragraph (1) for the month in which the
    duty concerned occurs (with the total amount of hazardous
    duty pay paid the member under this clause
    in any given month not to exceed such entire amount);
    and
    ‘‘(B) in the case of hazardous duty pay payable under
    paragraph (2) or (3) of subsection (a), the Secretary concerned
    may prorate the payment amount to reflect the
    duration of the member’s actual qualifying service during
    the month.’’.

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      Kay, this link is already furnished in the post, giving the readers to read the bill for themselves. It is implied that the Congress is at fault-the President cannot sign a bill or Act into law without it first coming out of the Congress

      • Alex Hernandez

        The link in the article only takes you to the National Defense Authorization Bill. Fromthere you have to scroll down to the text of the section. Kay is correct in stating the House creates the bill then to goes to the Senate. From there it will end up in a Joint Resolution Committtee and once again to the House then Senate. Once they pass it it will go to the President for signature.
        The blame lies with the House not President Obama. Those that place blame on POTUS doesn’t know how our government works. But it is easier to blame to believe a lie than to seek the truth.

        • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

          The POTUS is ultimately responsible or to blame because he has the final say-signature. We all know how a bill or act become law, the POTUS takes full responsibility once it is signed,right? Wasn’t this the case with Bush?

          Both parties wanted action in Iraq, but once it didn’t suit their purpose anymore, Democrats blamed Bush for all of the world’s problems.

          • Rich

            Hey, Mr. Unbiased Journalist, what else was contained in the bill?
            Normally things like this are just small components of some larger funding bills.
            Who proposed the amendment?
            Please, publish details like that before you go trying to whip up anti-Obama sentiments.
            Please, who placed that wording in whatever bill this was part of so we know whose idea this was.
            Fair enough, Mr. Journalist?

          • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

            The link to the Def.Auth. Act is in the post. The buck stops at the top, regardless who passed the bill.Both R’s and D’s passed this.

          • Rich

            OK,so who added this to the bill?

          • Vanessa

            This isn’t about providing the WHOLE article or who is ultimately responsible for the bill, it is about telling the truth. The truth is, our guys (I say this because my husband is active duty Army and served in Iraq) cannot claim the whole month for combat pay, just the actual days in the combat zone at $7.50 a day for a maximum of $225 for the month. This was put in to reduce waste because people we taking advantage of the one day rule. Mr. Manjarres, you hide behind the fact that you posted a link to the actual bill, but the truth is, you are lying to your readers. You should be ashamed for using our soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors in such a distasteful way.

    • Liberty717

      I am not a Republican, I am an American and expect the commander and chief to veto any bills that will undermine our troops. He has no trouble requesting a one-percent raise for the WH bureaucrats because these are his people. Our troops mean nothing to him. With all the instability that we have in the world, this is not the time to demoralize our troops. I am so tired of the R and D blame. Can we start thinking of what is best for our children’s future? How can we keep them safe?

  • Lissette

    To the man who posted this ad aviation or not don’t single men and woman out based on what there occupation is in service because my husband is an aviation mechanic and has been on may deployment in more then one dangerous area all who are in a line of fire or around it should get the pay and who is deployed not one and single others out you all serve and should be treated equally so don’t judge! And for every one come election lets not reelect this dumb ass he is ruining every thing for all of us.

    • Kay Gordon

      Reelect a dumbass? You got life Mucked up! Can you read idiot? Try reading the darn document and know how govt works. HR to Congress to President. Someone from HR or Congress created the bill, not the POTUS!!!!

  • WOWayne325

    I agree that the politicians should take a paycut! Most are sitting on thier plump backsides cashing paychecks, which they don’t deserve! Better yet…. get rid of half of them…. that will save some dough!!!!

  • WOWayne325

    Funny,,, that the Military wife says that she is for this President…. This is the same President that wants to stop families going overseas with the Military members…. Hummm….. Hubby is in Europe for 18 months without the wife….. Do you really think that’s a good idea????

  • http://azsoftware.biz/amazon/ Former Marine

    Obungler is nothing more than a Twinkle-toed, Muslim-loving, Terrorist-loving Communist who doesn’t understand, nor does he and his ugly-ass ol’ lady, care about the troops … yet, when someone threatens his black ass, he immediately wants the military to protect him.

    I served with the Corps from 1968 – 1972, putting in 2 tours in Viet-Nam and had Hazardous Duty pay … that was rightfully taken away when I returned state-side and was assigned as a Drill Instructor at MCRD, San Diego.

    That being said, I would instruct all Marines, and all other military personnel serving in combat zones, to refuse to salute nor speak to this “alleged” Commander-in-Chief.

    • Rich

      If Mr. Obama is a “terrorist lover”, why is he busily going about killing Bin Laden and his cohorts?
      You guys just love to throw about silly names.

  • Caleb

    Im really not suprized, first out wonderful administration was going to cut all of the military’s pay to help with the defecit. Now they are taking combat pay away, with no cuts to their pay. Thank you, my dear U.S. Government, for making life harder for those who fight for this country. I do hope that in your last days you suffer thinking about what you have done, to the people who put their lives on the line for you.
    Thank you my dear Commander-in-Cheif for creating hardships and termoil in the lives of service men and women.

    I pray god has mercy on your soul.

  • Veteran and Patriot

    Obama just keeps proving by his actions just how much he is not an American and that he is a Muslim, Socialist and Enemy of the US, our Constitution and our military, also that he will do anything and everything to destroy this country, from the inside.
    In a speech when he was running for the Presidency , his own words were “America is a great country and I’m going to change it” !!! To Obama, “Change It” translates to “Destroy It ” !
    Congress and the Senate need to get off of their asses, step up and Impeach Obama’s un-American ass and send his selfish, miserable, neutered, self centered ass to Afghanistan and have him walk in boots, right alongside and with the troops serving there and taking fire from the insurgents. Obama would be crying like a 1 year old baby and would have to change his “Panties” every 5 minutes !
    He is suppose to be Commander in Chief! But, in the eyes of many Patriots and Veterans that have Proudly and Honorably served our country and flag, Obama does not have the qualifications, knowledge or intelligence to command a girls Brownie Troop, without getting them lost in a local park, let alone have control of the U.S. Armed Forces !
    God help this country……… Vote him out in 2012, before he totally destroys this country and turn it into a 3rd would nation !
    I’m sure that I will receive plenty of flack and in-coming rounds on this post. Take your best shot !!!!
    But if you haven’t served this country in uniform or haven’t done anything to fight and protect it in some way, if you think that everyone that lives in this country enjoys Freedom that is Free, if you take your Liberties and Freedom for granted and that there is not a price for it, wake the hell up.
    Without our all Volunteer U.S. Armed Forces, your ass would be speaking some other language and you would have to worry about waking up every day, looking down the barrel of a gun.
    “SUPPORT OUR TROOPS”

  • TaterSalad

    One day in country should qualify for the pay. Not on how many days you are there. Obama is just nickle and dime-ing the troops. Leave it be Obama. These guys don’t make know where what you do to keep your sorry a$$ in office.

  • TaterSalad

    Here are the regulations. Seems Obama “is” doing a little nit-picking on the troops. Leave the “On-duty” part alone Barack. You are in a comfortable office while we are trying to make ends meet.

    A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:

    * Subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
    * On duty in an area in which he was in imminent danger of being exposed to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines and in which, during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines;
    * Killed, injured, or wounded by hostile fire, explosion of a hostile mine, or any other hostile action; or
    * On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.

  • Alex Hernandez

    The House of Representatives created this bill not President Obama. Put the blame on the source. The choice is yours to believe a lie or seek out the truth. This bill only becomes law after Presidential signature.

  • devoted2

    For all of the above posts who say not to blame the president for this outrage, he is also the guy who was willing to hold up military pay during the debate to raise the debt limit. He said it was a “distraction” he uses our military when it suits him politcally like photo ops but is perfectly willing to throw them under the bus at other times.

  • Bay

    This is the public judgment on the LACK of consistent policy; and absence of clear directive… Looking carefully, this Admin has produced (actual) reduction of Military Retirement benefits; whilst consigning our troops to a multiplicity of unclear agenda…

    Numerous examples of public distrust include, ‘re-naming’ of war-theater as “contingency Operations” which (in truth) are ramp-up theater… All the while they push the narrative that Conservatives increase war-theater.

  • mike

    He is nothing more than a JOKE. No regard for our country. Its time to vote him out. ROMNEY, RUBIO,REPUBLICAN. Take back America.

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  • Liberty717

    Nickle and dime our troops and 1 percent raise for the DC bureaucrats. It does not make any sense. Only this administration.

  • lyndsay

    ITS A F**KING WAR ZONE!!!!! ITS ALL HOSTILE!!!

  • lyndsay

    if Obama gave up his pay for 1 MONTH it would cover hazard pay for thousnds of soliders for a year!

    • Rich

      How about if the teabaggers in the House and Senate give up their salaries, too?
      Aren’t they the ones who originated and voted on the bill?
      Remember civics back in school?

  • Rachel

    Is it November yet, so we can throw his skinny Marxist ass out of the White House he illegally resides in?

    • Rich

      Prove that he’s a “Marxist” and prove that he is illegal?
      He was allowed on the ballot in EVERY state.
      Do you believe that a staunchly conservative Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court would have administered to Oath of Office to him if he believed there were constitutional issues surrounding his election?
      Let’s get back to what’s really important.

      • Lou

        Deeds speak louder than words, and great leaders should lead by example. Perhaps the president should recieve “president’s pay” only when he occupies the oval office, travel and golf time are exempt. Rachel, does our President’s agenda’s fit this discription? It’s from the dictionary. Marxism-the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, especially the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society. Regarding his illegality, shouldn’t the burden of proof be placed on that individual, since the records are sealed from the citizens? If you looked for employment, you would have to produce the required documentation.

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  • http://florida.tenthamendmentcenter.com Andrew Nappi

    You should thank all of FL’s D.C. delegation with the exception of Bill Posey, Connie Mack and Alcee Hastings for voting YES to NDAA.
    Keep sending GOP collectivists to office and you will keep getting more of the same.
    Tyranny wrapped in the flag is no less evil.

  • Michael Ackerman (BklynToBoca) Twitter

    I am as committed as the next Conservative to making sure BO is fired this November. As far as I’m concerned I would vote for a lump of coal over him as if he wins, a lump of coal is all we’ll get.

    That said, your article is preaching to the choir. It is imperative that when we make arguments to Independent voters as to why they should vote for a Republican, those examples must be based in FACT, not assertions that are apparently easily refuted as hysterical hate mongering from the ‘right’.

    I wrote to you yesterday on FB asking for feedback so I could respond to attacks on your article from a left leaning Independent.

    Here are the 3 comments I received;

    Hi Michael,
    Tina Perlmutter commented on your link.
    Tina wrote: “ONCE AGAIN MICHAEL: CHECK YOUR FACTS!!!!!!!!! FALSE”
    Hi Michael,
    Tina Perlmutter commented on your link.
    Tina wrote: “http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/payfreeze.asp”
    Hi Michael,
    Tina Perlmutter commented on your link.
    Tina wrote: “Not only is your information always salacious, but, Michelle Obama’s priority is for military families and President Obama is putting a bill to put all the Military men who have come home back to work by building the infrastructure in our country that we need so badly.”

    Javier, I realize you are busy, but I would greatly appreciate your fact based (not opinion) response.

    Thanks,

    Michael

    • mch

      Hope you’re not holding your breath!

  • http://the-peoples-america.org Gene Crain

    When we elect a president like Albert Morzuch a ex military man foolishness like this will stop.

    We have to get involved in what is happening today in our country. We need your voice to be load and clear in November 2012.

  • http://yahoo Rhonda Barrett

    Sounds like “National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (H.R. 1540-7″ was introduced by the Republican House and became a law. Who’s to blame, the House who started it or the osamaobama who signed and enforced it?

  • Doc

    This follows the plan of degrading and undermining our military. It would be tough to be a young American with thoughts of patriotic duty in this day age od de-stabilization.

    Research Public Law 87-297 first instituted under the Kennedy Administration and updated continually by our Congress since that time. It calls for the eventual splitting of our military force for control by the U.N. and another superpower (originally under Russian Control). The eventual outcome would be a world military force utilized to maintain world order and “peace” through a centralized ruling body.

    The business of war is big business for the few that profit from such activity. The soldier in the field are pawns in someone else’s chess game. Why pay a soldier anymore than necessary when they are compelled by a strong sense of patriotism? American’s need to awaken, we are being played by the profiteers.

    • Rich

      It took you this long to figure out that war is profitable to big business?
      Look up the great and wise President/General Eisenhower’s farewell speech where he warns of the “undue influence of the military/industrial complex”. My quote may not be that accurate but that’s what he meant. He was intelligent and wise enough to see ahead and warn about what is happening today where big business and big money has bought our government.

      • Doc

        We may understand that war is big business, but many Americans may not realize that. Yes, Eisenhower obviously understood the fact, and JFK came to understand the same. JFK had actually planned a troop withdrawl from Vietnam by 1965, but then Johnson increased our presence there. It’s very similar today, increase the public’s fear of the unknown, and continue “nation-building” at the taxpayer’s expense. The sad truth is that the young patriots in our military continue to give with good intent, and those in power, both Republican and Democrat use that for the gain of others. It’s ridiculous that this issue concerning combat pay is even an issue at all. Assuring that combat troops “earn their pay” while in a war zone, when the military forces are manned by volunteer personnel and not draftee’s sounds ludicrous.

  • Whambam

    The Marine said: “Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone”

    The law says they will receive the pay if they are:

    “On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.”

    So the soldier who wrote the letter will receive the pay.

    What exactly is the problem?

  • Whambam

    [According to Military.com, and the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 (H.R. 1540-7 Sec 616) ]

    H.R. stands for “House Resolution.” If it came from Obama, it would say “E.O.” for “Executive Order.”

  • Nancy D. Aucella

    We are at war.Combat pay should be in effect for all service men and woman. I do not care if you are sitting in the good old USA. War is War.You can be shipped out on a moments notice…

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  • William B

    I have received a letter about this (I am US Navy) and this article skews things a bit.

    The 225/mo is not going away entirely, it is just being changed. While previously, if a soldier was in a hazard zone for 1 day of the month, they would get all $225. The way it will be now, is that the pay is divided up, and you receive a small bit for each day you spend (I believe it ended up being $7.50 per day).

    While I admit I would also rather have the full 225, I just wanted to correct the small error this article puts out.

    • Nate

      I’m with William, and also active duty (Army). I have my share of disagreements with POTUS but this is not one of them. I’ve been to Kuwait (and Afghanistan) and many of the overseas assignments that qualify for combat pay should not. Furthermore, the pro-ration of these pays makes sense. It’s not uncommon for Servicemembers (of all ranks) to strategize their trips to these countries to maximize their financial incentives. For example, if I arrive in Kuwait on the last day of the month and stay through the first of the next month (2 days) I will be entitled to two months worth of combat pay and no income tax for ALL of my pay for both months! Is that fair?

      What I don’t understand if why Congress is wasting their time on these pennies when they should be worrying about how to pay down our debt and stop our entitlement spending both of which make the savings from these changes nonexistent relatively speaking….

  • Jerry

    I am amazed at the idea, that somehow we should prorate combat pay. Especially when we are talking about a little over $200/month. How about it, does anyone out there want to go risk their lives for a couple of hundred a month? This is BS. I also just love it when someone says they out to cut their pay because unions have been asked to get their pay renegotiated. How much would you charge to risk your life on a monthly basis? And, by the way, going to war, and paying for it most certainly wouldn’t be a problem if we cut government back to the level of what they should be doing instead of this huge politically motivated federal government we have now, mostly created to buy votes.

  • Bayli

    Ok one thing alot of yall that arent millitary dont get is that this crap doesnt just effect them men and women serving . it effects the familys that stand behing them. Every man or woman that goes overseas and is front line or a grunt needs to recieve Combat pay . it has always been like that why change something that has been ok to be there for years. Alot of mine and my husbands friends are overseas right now as im typing this and i dont think any of them are very pleasesed with this right now . i know that most of you reading this may think that i am crazy but i am a Marine Corps wife and i dont think any of the boys that are deployed or that have been deployed thinks this is right. -

  • bleh!!!!

    ok im a military wife too and i dont stand by any of this . this is messing with my husband and all of the boys that i know that fight for our freedom . u are making all military wives look stupid with ur comment. ok wait and didnt the president your standing by try to take our husbands pay for a month … oh wait he did try . yeah if you dont stand by our military go over there and stand in front of them .

  • Rick James

    Man evidently a lot of you haven’t been to combat zones so here’s a brief explanantion of pay, we went up from $150 a month to daily $7.50 or $225 a month which means more money if you are in a Combat Zone. So shut up!!!! Damn you sound like my cry baby soldiers that haven’t ever been in combat crying cause they lose money they haven’t earned yet. Freakin fobbits!!!

  • Big-Ken

    I feel your pain, while in Korea in 52, and attached to an Art/Battery 3-11, we were in the same boat; we had to receive “incoming” 10 days out of the month in order to receive combat pay, while not too far away, the Army received it regardless if they get hit or not. I hope everyone remembers these thing come NOVERBER, got to vote the ALL out.

  • SPC TommyB

    You know i have heard a lot of crap and the blame game about how Bush started two wars without the means to pay for them. Boy thats a crock of S IT. What would you have done afar Terrorists hit and destroyed the twin towers in New York not to mention the 3000 PLUS AMERICANS KILLED ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 OR DID YOU ALL FORGET THAT PART ALREADY??? You tell me Obama is so dam great, how the hell can you say that when his spending over 5 TRILLION DOLLARS in less than 2 years has put the USA in a big financial bind. When Obama took office the debt was a little over 9 trillion dollars now we are OVER 15 TRILLION DOLLARS. Obama and Biden both believe that and I quote, “IN ORDER TO AVOID BANKRUPTCY WE HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY”. Do you really believe this crap???? Spend more expand government and give trillions of dollars to failing companies so that the CEO’s can get their millions and close the company. This is good policy for a government for the people by the people??? YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!!!!! Oh, then there are the 6 vacations in the same amount of months with family in tow. He has also written several books since he took office, no wonder he has no clue whats going on and what he’s doing. The office of President of the most powerful country is not a on the job training position. Speaking of the office of the President of The United States Of America, since that position has been in existence no president has dropped to a knee and kissed the hand of anyone. Don’t you agree? Yet President Obama went to Saudi Arabia DROPPED TO HIS KNEE AND KISSED THE HAND OF THE SAUDI KING AND PRINCE, and supports one of the most radical Islamic organizations there is. The MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD is not our friends in fact they have persecuted and killed people for nothing less than being Christian and Obama supports them in Egypt where they are NOW HOLDING OVER 19 AMERICANS BECAUSE OF THEIR TIES TO CHRISTIAN AID ORGANIZATIONS. Thats how they are. THANKS FOR THE HELP AND BY THE WAY NOW THAT YOU HELPED OUR PEOPLE IN NEED WE ARE GOING TO HOLD YOU FOR TRIAL AND THE PUNISHMENT IS DEATH. These are the kind of people he supports to run a country. IF THAT IS YOUR IDEA OF A GREAT PRESIDENT FOR THE USA, YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED. Hey here is a few ideas that might help you realize some things. First, read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Then think about the type of country you want your kids to grow up and enjoy. If that doesn’t open your eyes to how he is destroying this country you can STRONGLY GRAB HOLD OF YOUR EARS AND PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.

  • Jesse

    As I red the comments for this page I find myself very disapointed in the education system. Republican , Democrat ,Teabagger , a politician is a politician and the government still runs as a group of powers. Obama doesn’t have enough pull to control that much of congress and if he did , if anyone did I would worry. I think the need to reinforce government classes so that all this foolish rubbish and leading idiots by the nose will stop. Or has anyone else noticed the ones doing the passing of the bills are lifetime politicians and I mean all of congress, how many of them have only their own wallets in mind.

  • Warghoul

    This article is a crock, and the marine that wrote that obviously doesn’t understand what the pay change actually is. It’s sad that people want to pull the military into extremely poor trolls/rhetoric like this. I am currently serving in the military, and I am all for this. If the guy is truly serving in Afghanistan, then he will get the hostile fire pay he is entitled to. Not a big problem. This was to keep guys from fleecing the system. I seen it happen with convoys operatin out of kuwait. They would move some stuff into Iraq for a day, and draw an entire month of hostile fire pay just for that one day. This is a good thing people. Read more than just the head line.

  • http://www.foreign-and-domestic.blogspot.com Dave Thul

    Javier you have this one completely wrong and need to get your facts straight. Hostile fire pay is now prorated so that you get paid per day in country, rather than per month. As a 20 year vet of the Guard and an Iraq vet, the whole month pay system always pissed me off. Senior officers would fly in on the last day of the month for meetings and briefings, fly out on the first day of the month, and then collect hostile fire pay for TWO months, as well as having all of their military pay be tax exempt for those two months because of the combat zone tax exclusion.

    The passage you cite from the National Defense Act applies to situations where soldiers not in the combat zone all month long can nonetheless get the full month’s bennies. You don’t have to get shot at every day to get hostile fire pay every day!

    You need to get the facts and then post a correction.

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      No, you are wrong. All members of the military in combat zones received combat pay. Now the pay is taken away, regardless if it is prorated, it is still taken away.

      • mch

        Mr. Manjarres: Please provide more detail of your research for your statement above. I have read the NDAA 2012 and I agree with Mr. Thul as to the impact of the change. On what documents; opinions; research are you basing your opinion (and I do mean opinion) here?

  • John Patrick Ryan

    I didn’t vote Obama in 2008, and, like most conservatives, I want him gone … like yesterday, if only that were possible! But on several levels, IMO this was an ill-advised and somewhat misleading article. I’ll mention just two of them: (1) As some other posters have also pointed out, the matter under discussion originated from the House of Representatives – not from the Obama White House; and (2) The article references a House Resolution — not a fully enacted change in federal law, which among other things necessarily requires matching Senate legislation and then reconciliation. Consequently, I fail to see how it could have been implemented on February 1, 2012.

  • Sawmpbuck

    If you are in country are you not in a combat zone?Whats the big problem?

  • mch

    Warghoul: Hoorah! I too am disappointed and distressed to see military families being used as pawns in political rhetoric. On the other hand, it is everyone’s responsibility to seek the truth when folks like Mr. Manjarres write half truths and what some might consider outright lies. Either he is inept at his choosen trade or he is knowingly trying to enrage hardworking military personnel and their equally hardworking families. Either way, I can attest it took me all of 30 minutes to conduct my own research into this issue and come to the same conclusion you did. I think this change exemplifies the sacrifice of military personnel who are truly in hostile fire zones by not allowing those that have not truly earned it to reap the benefits.

  • Veteran29

    What is this ASSHOLE B. Hussein Obama trying to do other that DESTROY this country and the greatest military in the world. This is just another thumb in the eye of our military by this “piece of crap” Obama, and the liberal democrats. The sooner this piece of garbage Obama gets destroyed politically in this next election the better. You now see why the men and women serving in the U.S. military have total disdain for Obama. This CLOWN has never even SERVED in the military, so how can you lead what you know NOTHING about! Oh, I forget, on everything Obama and his REGIME lead FROM BEHIND! You liberal NUMNUTS on here who voted for Obama are proof why STUPID PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE, and you can blame yourselves JERKS for this “slap in the face” to the military that Obama seems all to proud of himself to accomplish, because you ANTI AMERICAN MORONS VOTED FOR HIM!

  • Veteran29

    OBAMA IS PROOF THAT STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE! CORRECTION ON THE WORD SHOULD!

    • Rich

      Then I guess you shouldn’t be allowed to vote!!

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  • Fred

    If you folks could read, you would notice that it was a House resolution Bill. That means that it was started, and passed, by the Republicans, that you love so much. So whay are you blaming Obama for signing a Republican bill into law?

    • Rich

      Because Mr. Manjerrez saw an opportunity to whip up the teabagger frenzy.

  • geordie

    HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take ANY Pay from our Men and women..If anything they should be OVER PAID..Im a Marine Vet..Man Id just LOVE!!!! To Shake His Skinny PencilNeck..Please!!!!!! Please lets get this Punk in Chief OUTTTTTTTTT.and the rest of the pencilneck Geeks.

    • Susan

      Bravo Gordie and thank you for your service and for protecting all of us!

  • lm

    Hey people-
    Obama has increased military pay every year in office and gave the ok to kill Osama Bin Laden and has done more to help our military.

    This change makes sense. Stop jumping the gun.
    If you are a flight crew and fly into Afghanistan for one day to unload a plane and leave, why should you get paid for the whole month for danger pay??? You get paid for the time you spend in a danger zone. It makes sense! you ONLY get paid when you are there- stop feeling like you are entitled to everything. My husband is an active duty Marine and he agrees with me. It is also a smart way to save money for our military- would you rather have your health care or housing allowance cut???

    • Susan

      Obama did NOT order anything re Bin Laden. The credit goes to Navy Seals and it was well publicized after Obama tried to steal the credit.

      • Rich

        Oh, so the Seal Team acted on their own?

        Whose idiotic blog are you reading?

    • Susan

      Obama has NOT done NOTHING FOR our military men and women. Why don’t you join the service and then talk…neither you nor Obama have the guts it takes to serve in the Military.

  • http://N/A George Wideman

    I have served on 5 deployments, including KNB North of Kuwait City. I was still under the threat of aggression in Kuwait just as I was in Iraq etc. I was still 6,000 plus miles from home. I was still giving up part of my live. I was still on standby to move North. It was still 100 degrees at night and 140 F in the day time.. You were still at home with family and friends, central heat and air, freedom to do as you wish. These young military are serving 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. No holidays, no vacation, no liberty passes, no family time and most are very low in rank making much less than minimum wage. Don’t begruge the few dollars extra they recieve for these sacrifaces.
    George Wideman Msgt. Retired

    • mch

      And under the changes just put into effect you would have continued to receive hazard duty pay for every day you were there (as you should have). However, if these rules had been in effect then, you would not have received combat zone pay for days you were NOT in Kuwait or any other designated combat zone. From what I can gleen, nothing patently unfair about that.

  • Jim

    Marco Rubio voted to pass this bill too.
    We all know our military and veterans are paid too little for what they do to protect us.

  • George

    Pay no attention to those civilians that have never served. While they sit their fat asses on their couch watching their 60 inch flat screen TV, some GI, somewhere is under fire or subject to an IED and possible loss of life and limb. Pay the civilian no attention and remember this when you go to the polls this November.

  • KJames

    So combat pay is given to those who are actually in combat? Ok. Where is the source of outrage? And I’m sorry, but there are posts in Iraq and Afghanistan that are not at imminent risk. Everyone complains about gov’t spending, but when revisions are made (that make perfect sense) people complain. I guess everyone wants a balanced budget, but just want it balanced on the backs of everyone else. Typical. Petty. Self-centered.

  • Susan

    Why doesn’t the president exercise some moderation in his own spending for his own comfort and narcissistic excesses?
    From a UK Newspaper:
    “The President arrived in Europe for the Economic
    Summit with an unprecedented entourage of over
    500 people inclusing his personal chef…hairdresser,
    make-up people, writers, a man to play basketball
    with and 12 teleprompters. The president is there to
    convince the world that America is going to be more
    thrifty”…and in another portion, it says:
    “Instead of sending troops to guard the Arizona border,
    we sent signs warning about the areas controlled by
    the Mexican Drug Cartels…using the same Logic,
    wouldn’t it make sense to take away your secret service
    and surround you with signs that say [Please don’t shoot
    the president]?”

    Posted by someone in an MSNBC post re Obama’s excessive personal spending FROM OUR TAX DOLLARS AND HE DARES TO CUT MILITARY PAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLINGLY PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR ALL OF US INCLUDING HIM?:
    First President to violate the War Powers Act.
    First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
    First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
    First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy ‘corpsman’.
    First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers.
    First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.
    First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
    First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
    First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
    First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.

    More from the UK papers criticizing Obama:

    #hl=en&sugexp=lttma%2Cn%3D200&tok=x2NtFcIjiaYdBEInOQg49A&cp=16&gs_id=1l&xhr=t&q=Obama+in+the+UK+news&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=Obama+in+the+UK+&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=be136677e0bc5054&biw=1024&bih=584

    MORE OF OBAMA’S HISTORY OF “FIRSTS” AS president:
    First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
    First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
    First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States .
    First President to violate the War Powers Act.
    First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
    First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
    First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
    First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
    First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
    First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
    First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
    First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
    First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
    First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
    First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
    First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
    First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
    First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
    First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
    First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
    First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
    First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.

  • J.H.

    This is the biggest piece of troll garbage I’ve ever seen. Of course the majority of people will just read the headline and then jump immediately into the comments to trash Obama, but all that does is show why we need to stop making cute to education. The troll that posted this, included the link to the actual passage (which was stupid if he wanted anyone to take him seriously, because if you read it for yourself you’ll see that this article is B.S. EG: that last bullet point he has in BOLD, is not mentioned or written ANYWHERE in the document.

    As others have mentioned, if we’re going to balance the budget and cut fraud and waste, we need to look EVERYWHERE. As some of our veterans have mentioned, there are people that DO game the system because they can. most of you anti Obama folks are probably right wing as well, so how come your “those who work harder deserve more” logic doesn’t apply to the troops that claim combat pay for days they’re not in a combat zone? Tell me how this doesn’t belittle the soldiers that are?

    Wake up, and stop drinking the kool aid. Hate Obama all you want, but let it be based on facts (you know, like how the republicans are the ones who put this forth ANYWAY), not just ignorance or yes – racism. But what do I know.. I’m just an in the middle gal who likes to research things (in those evil books, or that fancy interwebs) rather than jump on a bandwagon or blindly follow the pied piper off the cliff.

  • Susan

    Corrected post as to order of sentences:

    Why doesn’t the president exercise some moderation in his own spending for his own comfort and narcissistic excesses?
    From a UK Newspaper:
    “The President arrived in Europe for the Economic
    Summit with an unprecedented entourage of over
    500 people inclusing his personal chef…hairdresser,
    make-up people, writers, a man to play basketball
    with and 12 teleprompters. The president is there to
    convince the world that America is going to be more
    thrifty”…and in another portion, it says:
    “Instead of sending troops to guard the Arizona border,
    we sent signs warning about the areas controlled by
    the Mexican Drug Cartels…using the same Logic,
    wouldn’t it make sense to take away your secret service
    and surround you with signs that say [Please don’t shoot
    the president]?”

    More from the UK papers criticizing Obama:

    #hl=en&sugexp=lttma%2Cn%3D200&tok=x2NtFcIjiaYdBEInOQg49A&cp=16&gs_id=1l&xhr=t&q=Obama+in+the+UK+news&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=Obama+in+the+UK+&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=be136677e0bc5054&biw=1024&bih=584

    Posted by someone (ssmithlg) in an MSNBC post re Obama’s excessive personal spending FROM OUR TAX DOLLARS AND HE DARES TO CUT MILITARY PAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLINGLY PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR ALL OF US INCLUDING HIM?:

    First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
    First President to go on multiple global ‘apology tours’-including bowing to foreign rulers…
    First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.
    First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date & counting.
    First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
    First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) just for his wife.
    First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
    First President to not know how to properly pronounce Navy ‘corpsman’. (insult to service men and women)

    MORE OF OBAMA’S HISTORY OF “FIRSTS” AS president that SERVED TO FURTHER DEPLETE OUR ECONOMY AND LOSE JOBS FOR AMERICANS AND OTHER UNLAWFUL THINGS HE IS GUILTY OF:
    First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner. (he should pay this money back)
    First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
    First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. (how many jobs and dollars did this cost us?)
    First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions. (how many jobs did this cost us?)
    First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
    First President to violate the War Powers Act.
    First President to defy a Federal Judge’s court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
    First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
    First President to spend a trillion dollars on ‘shovel-ready’ jobs when there was no such thing as ‘shovel-ready’ jobs.
    First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
    First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
    First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space-defunded NASA.
    First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
    First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
    First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
    First President to tell a major manufacturing company (Boeing) in which State they are allowed to locate a factory.
    First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
    First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
    First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
    First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
    First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
    First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
    First President to say that America was not a Christian nation.

  • http://www.thefightingbull.com Jesse Blue

    The author of this article is dead wrong. Please read the post titled “Troops Aren’t Helped By Being Coddled” at http://www.thefightingbull.com to get an honest assessment of what this policy does for the military.

  • Allison

    As a member of our military I can say that Obama will not be getting my vote. Our US military makes up only 1% of the US population. The least our nation can do is take care of the 1% that raises its right hand and swares to protect our nation. Our nation takes care of millions on welfare and unemployment…how about take care of people in our nation that actually do something.

  • Betty

    hey you guys cut it out. I for one thank each and everyone of you that serve if not for you where would AMERICA be today? and if we don’t get obama out of our house their want be AMERICA it will be muslim-america and that is not what I want for my grand children and great grand children another 4 years of obama and we will not have a country left to fight for. all freedom will be gone we want we able to even think for our selves he will dictate what we are to eat, drink, think. he will rule every part of our lives and how we live it. he will tell when it is time for us to die. please stop and think about what you are saying. you all give so much to be able to serve our country oh I know each one you think your branch of service is better than any other. but to me you all are great and I love you for it we both know if it comes down to it you would back each other right? GOD BLESS AMERICA and THANK YOU

  • rob

    Obama lost one fighting with the catholic church and the protestents jumped in too. Now he is after the military any way you cut him he comes up way more dangerous than the arabs or afganites or anyone else in the world. He is ruining our country if I couldn’t see him I would swear he is the very son of jimmy carter. Especially in the way he handles the economy. Nero played while rome burned and so is obama missing when the going gets tough. We have a nit for the president of the united states. He has been called the WORST PRESIDENT we have ever had. That sounds fair when you follow what he is doing. SHEESH comes into my vocabulary alot lately, over the nonsence he puts on the country. SHEESH not again. Another word comes to mind he must be a TRAITOR it is the only way to account for aLL HIS errors.

  • Danube

    Ernie FU Pyle is a gasbag of a most familiar kind. He knows nothing of the threat to US warships in the Persian Gulf, which includes Sunburn missiles, 200 high-speed attack gunboats, and a dozen or more submarines. Why do you suppose he feels it is interest to deny those men and women that pay?

    I’ve known men like that in my career. They’re losers.

  • Kevlaur

    Relax – you only get a month’s combat pay if you spend a MONTH in the combat zone. This stops people from popping in and out of a combat zone and collecting the money for being there just a day or two.

  • Rich

    E.PYLE

    How about let me me know where I can I find you. I want to be right up in your face when I call You a lying SOB – That way you can’t run hide and will be forced to back up your tough talk with action. And I guarantee you there will be some action – action that you won’t like. So how about it there big mouth. Got as much guts as you do bull%^&$ ?

    Rich
    MSG USA (Ret)

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  • R. Schaefer

    My question is this: After OBAMA loses the election in 2012, declares martial law and refuses to give up the presidency, are our troops going to be paid combat pay when they come home to the USA and fight the armed rebellious citizens?

  • SFC L

    A review of the DoD Financial Management Regulation Volume 7A, Chapter 10, dated August 2011, indicates that the rules for authorizing HFP have been in place for some time, and the Defense Act of 2012 does not change the rules already in place in any way. What’s going on here is that there are a lot of not-very-bright people making stuff up, as the chapter, in figure 10-1, designates Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan as IDP/HFP areas upon assignment by official orders. The rules under discussion are those for members not assigned to these areas, who enter the area for missions for which IDP/HFP may be authorized. These rules have been in place since before the current regime, and have not been constructively changed. Perhaps in the future proper research will be acomplished prior to making blatantly false claims on the internet, which make yourself and the service look stupid. Signed, Retired NCO Iraq Veteran

  • SFC L

    http://comptroller.defense.gov/fmr/07a/07a_10.pdf
    here’s the link and you can read the rules yourself istead of relying upon the misinterpretation of dubious characters on the internet.

  • SFC L

    The rules were changed long ago to reflect the current rules in order to stop certain officers from flying in and out of Iraq and collecting 2 months combat pay for arriving on the 30th and leaving on the 2d of consecutive months. 2-4 days in Iraq rewarded by 2 months HFP.

  • Ron Myers

    I served in USAF during the “Cold War”. We got no Purple Hearts, combat pay or metals for our service. We lost many airmen doing their duty. Do you remember the TV ad ” Sleep well tonight America we are watching”. Do a search for “Silent Warrors Site” and spend a few hours reading over the names of airmen lost, it’s is up in the thousands who gave the ultimat to win the Cold War. A very close friend of mine received the “Solders Metal” (the peace time equivilant of the “Metal of Honor”)for his heroic act at Goose Bay Labradore in 1955. I served 8 years before going back to civilian life.

  • A. St. Thomas

    @Ernie FU Pyle, you obviously have never served in the military and if you did, it certainly wasn’t honorably. You are a poser and a dirt bag.

  • Gonzalo Reyes, USMC SE Asia 1970

    Not defending Obama, but how is this tagged to him if:
    H.R.1540
    Latest Title: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012
    Sponsor: Rep McKeon, Howard P. “Buck” [CA-25] (by request) (introduced 4/14/2011) Cosponsors (1)
    Related Bills: H.RES.269, H.RES.276, H.RES.493, H.R.1942, H.R.1999, H.R.2570, S.981, S.1044, S.1062,
    S.1777, S.1867
    Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 112-81 [GPO: Text, PDF]
    House Reports: 112-78, 112-78 Part 2; Latest Conference Report: 112-329 (in Congressional Record H8356-8726)

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  • http://www.alipac.us/f19/barack-obamas-citizenship-questioned-129743/index482.html MinutemanCDC_SC

    Cookie Hart, a liberal, I agree with you. First time for everything, I guess. Keep it up; get your facts straight, and you’ll be a Constitutionalist and a Patriot in no time flat.

    Everywhere I look, there’s way too much posting before not enough searching. “Ignorance” comes before “infuriating” in the dictionary, and on the Internet as well. But nothing much (worthwhile) comes after “willfully stupid.”

    • http://www.alipac.us/f19/barack-obamas-citizenship-questioned-129743/index482.html MinutemanCDC_SC

      The above was in reply to Cookie Hart’s post:

      I only ask people check out ALL the information before posting or blaming anyone for things they aren’t responsible for…If Mr. Obama did indeed, singlehandedly do this…. I’d be all for a new president… but did no one else take at least a High School government class???? I dang near failed that class but yet I still know Congress has way more to do with passing items of this nature than the President does. If Mr. Obama could just randomly pass things at will….don’t you think his “agenda” would’ve already been met by now… IT IS PURE IGNORANCE…to comment on these things without INFORMING yourself, find out all facts…… before you take out your obviously misplaced anger on someone….:)

      • AC

        You are absolutely correct there is more than one person that makes these laws BUT, how many have actually served in the U.S. Military? I think that it should be a mandatory requirement to serve and sacrifice before someone is deemed eligible to make a decision for another life. The majority if not all of them have not served and could never understand what it’s like to make those sacrifices yet make laws they feel necessary……. that is “ignorant”.

  • Bkaas

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/combatpay.asp

    Read this before rushing to judgement. I was pissed; now I’m not.

  • DS

    I can’t believe Javier is a reporter- more like a spin doctor. He includes the quote: The rules for Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger Pay have changed. Service members will now receive imminent danger pay only for days they actually spend in hazardous areas. This change went in effect on February 1, 2012.
    A member of a uniformed service may be entitled to Hostile Fire and Imminent Danger pay at the rate of $225 for any month in which he/she was entitled to basic pay and in which he/she was:… ”

    This quote VERY clearly states in the last paragraph ” or, On duty in a foreign area in which he was subject to the threat of physical harm or imminent danger on the basis of civil insurrection, civil war, terrorism, or wartime conditions.”. Last time I checked my geography and news, Afganistan is a foreign area in wartime conditions.

    Congrats on stirring up this thread of arguments by reporting only YOUR tunnel vision interpretation. The service man NEVER said his pay was dropped, just that he was notified the only reason he would qualify for combat pay. Now if he wrote that his pay WAS actually reduced and provided PROOF, then you would have something accurate to report.

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      “Congrats on stirring up this thread of arguments by reporting only YOUR tunnel vision interpretation. The service man NEVER said his pay was dropped, just that he was notified the only reason he would qualify for combat pay. Now if he wrote that his pay WAS actually reduced and provided PROOF, then you would have something accurate to report.” Ummm, where did I write that the soldier’s pay was dropped?

      Here is his exact quote:”Now, as an Infantry Marine, I’m constantly in a combat zone…it may not always be popping off, but for them to take that away from us is bullshit. Now, the aviation tech who sits on Camp Leatherneck, sure, I can see him not getting Combat Pay, but to take it away from the grunts, the ground pounders, the front line of defense…come on, Uncle Sam. You let the Liberals win a big one here”

      If you read the article without your tunnel vision bias towards it, you will understand that the soldier, who is currently deployed in Afghanistan, is saying that he received the letter advising him that he will no longer get his combat pay.

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  • http://www.lucianne.com Sandy

    This article is inaccurate….

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      Wrong, go re-read the article

  • http://www.lucianne.com Sandy

    Pardon…but I might be one of those civilian you describe.

    And let me tell you one big thing….just because we came to this fight THINKING the article was true does not mean we are lazy and sitting around watching tv all day.
    We THOUGHT it was true and came to YOUR defense..
    Stop being such a prick and open your eyes…NOT EVERYONE IS A MEMBER OF THE MILITARY…WE SUPPORT AND PRAY FOR YOUR SAFETY.
    Nut job!!!….get some brains!

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  • AC

    First and foremost, I think that if Obama wants to make a decision like this he needs to put a pair of boots and utilities on and camp out with these soldiers, devil dogs, seabees, etc. Sacrifice seeing his family, wake up to hearing gun fire and fight for the very rights that men and women in service are deprived of. Pay is only a small benefit compared to the life that is put on the line every day whether or not they are being shot at or the mental and emotional damage that is caused. I’m angry that these “politicians” and so called “president” can make a decision for the country or an individual but it doesn’t apply to them. If any of these suits wore a pair of camis they wouldn’t last a day and would make different decisions for our country and women and men in service. I served my time and so did my better half and the day he took his life because he served his country nothing was done and no help was given to prevent it. NO AMOUNT OF MONEY can ever bring him back. WHY WOULD O

  • AC

    OBAMA TAKE THE VERY LITTLE GIVEN TO THESES MEN AND WOMEN THAT PAY THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE………SOME COUNTRY TO FIGHT FOR!!!!!

  • Jon Zehner

    If anyone takes the time to read the second criteria (not the one that is bold and underlined) they will see that troops serving in Afghanistan fall into that category.

    “during the period he was on duty in that area, other members of the uniformed services were subject to hostile fire or explosion of hostile mines”

    The bold and underlines point is meant to apply to none-combat areas where someone might be attacked. For example, if a soldier is serving in Germany and terrorists plant a bomb in the barracks.

    Oh, who am I kidding? No one cares. Everyone’s already made up their minds that Obama is a Kenyan born, America-hating, Muslim extremist and no facts to the contrary will ever disprove that for them.

  • http://twitter.com/tonychester Tony Chester

    This post is incorrect and misleading. Please visit Snopes for the real story. Basically the ONLY thing that happened is pay was changed to daily as opposed to monthly. http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/combatpay.asp

    Not kidding — you guys are being lied to.

    • http://www.shark-tank.net Javier Manjarres

      No, you are wrong. The combat pay was taken away from all servicemen. The ‘will’ be paid combat pay ‘if’ they are put in harms way….they will not get the pay automatically like they use to before.

      • Tim

        Tony’s right. This change won’t effect one dime of combat pay…IF you actually are in a designated hostile zone. The difference is that that time is calculated daily, not just given as a monthly rate even if you just stay in-zone one day. For instance, if you are an officer and fly into a hostile zone on the 31st for a change of command ceremony on the 1st, you used to get two months combat pay for just two days in theater. (225$ + 225$ = 450$). Now that same officer will get 15$ (7.50$ + 7.50$)which is the rate for two days. EVERY soldier in a designated hostile zone STILL gets full combat pay, but it is just calculated daily, not monthly. Nothing is being taken from anyone except people gaming the system.

      • http://xbradtc.wordpress.com XBradTC

        You’re stupid, you know that, right?

        Imminent Danger Pay was never automatic. You had to BE IN a designated zone (what we would commonly call a combat zone) to receive it.

        Troops at home station? Deployed for training in Korea? They weren’t receiving it.

        Troops in the combat zone do receive it. And they still will. As noted above and below, however, they won’t receive the entire monthly sum for less than a full month in the combat zone.

      • US1st

        Tony, you are wrong this post is not incorrect or misleading. It is a lie! He was not lying before he was told about his mistake. Now, this Javier guy is lying with a straight face. In the old days, he would have been put on trial for treason. Spreading misinformation during wartime was a serious crime. People don’t care about this type of misinformation nowadays because communication is very accessible.

        Javier is just lucky that he lives in 2012! In the old days you get hung for what you are doing!

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  • Charles R. Helms

    Hey Ernie FU, Why don’t you go up on the deck of an aircraft carrier working 14 hr days planes launching and recovering every 45 mins. I bet the the first minute up the and a plane trapped standing on the foul line you’ld crap your pants. I was on those decks for 22 years and every day every launch and every recovery you are in intement danger. Especially at night the most dangerous time on a flight deck. I don’t care what ship you are on there’s danger. So shut the f__k up about sailors on ships at sea. You must have been in the Air Force. Where people like you stay behind the lines and bitch about everything but what really counts and that is the human sacrifice our troops make every day. You must be an Obama lover!

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  • Willy D

    Well speaking as a Vietnam vet i know there was a lot of abuse for getting combat pay when i was in. I was a loadmaster on a C-118 and the officers always made sure to fly through the zone to get the combat/tax free pay for that month. I think that kind of thing Obama maybe trying to stop.

  • George

    Sorry,
    By the way what the troops are doing in the Middle east, to fight terrorisim.

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/911%20Cover-up/911.htm

    Or to protect Israel?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmOxK-BypWE

    We need to wake up before every kid in America will be forced to abuse drugs and have babies while they are in elementary school.

    Our money need to be spent here to terminate drug dealers and whom behibed them, stop terror on our streets where people got killed like dogs for no reason, in Chicago for example shooting and gangs is part of life that the news dont even need to cover any more, it’s normal.
    Can somebody tell me why do have to support Israel with 9 billion dollars a year at the time homless people numbers are increasing by thousands everyday in our country.
    wake up America before it’s too late, drink and drug life will stay dunk.
    Thanks
    George Galloway

  • GRG

    OK, TROOPS it’s time to stand down and come home and fuck Obama, if we are at war they get combat pay if not they come home.
    It’s time for Our military “Joint Chiefs Of Staff” to take a stand for our country and the Constitution and tell the White House to go fuck off, we are coming home and removing you and 2/3 of congress from power. Obama will see the inside of a jail cell if we still have true American in control in the “Joint Chiefs Of Staff”??

  • Senior Chief

    Willy D you are exactly right!!. I have been on active duty for nearly 20 years now and I have received this pay on many occasions for my service in qualified combat areas. The pay and the areas of service to receive it are still the same. The change is that now to get the entire month’s worth of pay you must serve the entire month in the area. The pay is now pro rated day for day. For example: under the old system I could collect my entire $225.00 for just serving one day in the area. So if I got there January 31st and left the area on February 1st I would get two months worth of combat pay. Now under the new system I would only get two days worth. The two days I was actually in the area. And by the area I mean the entire Persian Gulf area, not just small hostile areas in Afghanistan. Look in the DoD Financial Management Regulation if you need more clarification. This all started cause some young marine spouted off about something he should have gotten clarification from his Chain of Command about first.

  • http://on.fb.me/TeekeeMon TeekeeMon

    It looks like that Marine soldier didn’t do his homework.
    Let’s take a look at who sponsored that bill…
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1540

    Now let’s look at the voting details among Democrats and Republicans…
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2011-375

    UH OH…. it appears CPAC2011’s “Blogger of the Year” award to the “Shark Tank” was a bit unfounded.
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  • Jill Ashley-Grochowski

    I dislike the placing of all of the blame for this on Obama. This bill was introduced by a Republican,Rep. Howard McKeon (CA25) and passed by the House. It seems libelous of The Shark Tank to write the article as though Obama personally walked this through the House. Get real and be accurate!

  • Patriotfrommaryland

    What B^%&&$%it! The obamainator sends troops to war and wants to steal what they rightly deserve.

    need I remind anyone back when he was first elected that, he wanted troops to use their own health insurance to pay for their war wounds. Yeah.. right pal.. one term president for sure

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  • K S Edwards

    Congratulations to shark tank. I am sure they are gleeful about chumming the conversational waters regarding this subject. Reading how service members are pitted against each other over unclear facts and inflammatory statements is disappointing. Sharing the burden of sustaining our military has always involved hard choices. Many of those choices meant lives lost. If I have to give up my pay for being (in country)knowing that I am relatively safe so that a soldier can keep his job stateside then so be it.

  • KSB

    Actually, this is a misinterpretation. I got the same email from DFAS and it states that as of Feb 1 they will begin pro-rating the IDF pay – so you only get paid for the days that you’re in a hostile area. It used to be that if you spent one day in the hostile area you got the entire $225. Now they are changing it to ~$7 a day. So if you left on the 15th of February, you only get paid $105 when you used to get the entire $225. It doesn’t have to do with if you’re actually taking fire or whatnot. It sucks for those of us who deploy for 1 year + (just got back from the ‘Stan myself), but I think it’s more to keep those who go to the hostile areas for a few days for a “visit” and get the benefit for the entire month.

  • http://www.shark-tank.net Charles Martel

    Wow, this article has set off a firestorm for sure. But at the end of the day, I gotta call it like I see it- whether you refer to this action as a “cut” or “reduction” or being “pulled”, the amount of combat pay is being reduced, and it’s a clear indication of where this administration’s priorities are, and i’m sure it’s happy with the resulting controversy too. How’s that hope and change working out for ya?? Semper Fi.

  • Sean Froslie

    I agree with KSB. Regardless of anyone’s political stance, this law actually makes sense. I recently left for deployment halfway through the month. Why should I be paid for the first half of the month sitting in my living room? If we ever expect to get out of the current debt our country is in, cuts have to be made. My wife and I both agree that this was a wise choice by the administration. For those who are upset about not receiving the combat pay for tours in Kuwait and other “less hazardous” areas, you are still entitled to family separation which is the same thing you would get anywhere else you would go on a dependant restricted tour.

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  • Betty Jungwirth

    Read as many of these comments as time would allow. None of them addressed my question. Why is it fair to cut any kind of Military pay when our President and Congress keep reaping bennefits from our country with NO sacrifices? The waste in Washington is monumental! Our troops, if being fired upon or not, sacrifice personal comfort and family time when so many others are not willing to do so. Today they are in danger for just wearing the uniform. Don’t want to hear all about your macho accomplishments that may or may not be true. You can tell any story you want on the internet. And the most repeated arguement I read is “quit watching Fox News”. Do you Liberals think the only place thinking folks get information is some TV network. Much of it comes from LIVING.

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  • John W. Bullock-Recon Infantry

    Ok for some reason most of you navy guys take this offensive but shut up and listen….
    I spent 3 years as a recon marine and 6 years as an army scout. I certainly think I know what hostile fire pay is and have earned my share of it. If you navy pukes can say your getting shot at and returned fire then Yeah you might desirve that hostile fire pay. But I’ve spent some time on your carrier’s… You don’t even carry a weapon… So as I said before squid… Shut your Fucking mouth and leave the work to the real men….thanks for your time…

  • John W. Bullock-Recon Infantry

    And another thing why do navy people get sea pay? It should be seperation pay from your family…
    I don’t hate the navy… But hall get sea pay… Haz pay And Sea pay and sep pay… That’s more then a soldier getting shot at… its bullshit….

  • Sheila

    Guys you are missing the obvious. It does not matter how many days, one or thirty days in a month that a soldier, marine, airman, sailor spends in AOR. They all deserve everything we can give them. We should make it our business to take care of them. They are our only defenders of the freedoms we are slowly loosing. I have a better idea. If our fearless leaders insist on limiting the military and continue to erode what they have earned, then I think that they should ONLY get paid a minuscule amount of money for each day they work for us. Yes they should get paid for the days they actually work ONLY! They also should have the same exact health coverage they have imposed on the American people.

    • Lori

      I agree Sheila…I don’t see any of the government officials giving up their salaries to help balance the budget. Instead they want to take it away from our only source of defense. I feel it’s an outrage no matter what branch of the armed forces you serve in. The point is at any given time disaster can strike and it shouldn’t take an act such as that to determine whether or not they will get the money they deserve. All of our military men and women deserve more pay than they get now. In my opinion they are much more valuable to our country than the Washington bureaucrats dickering with our tax dollars. Cut costs in Washington and see how quickly the budget balances.

      Yearly income:
      President $400,000
      Senate Leadership
      Majority Party Leader – $193,400
      Minority Party Leader – $193,400

      House Leadership
      Speaker of the House – $223,500
      Majority Leader – $193,400
      Minority Leader – $193,400

      This doesn’t include all of the Senators and after serving only 6 years they have annual salary and benefits for life. I sure would like to work only 6 years and retire with full benefits.

      Salary of retired:
      US Presidents $180,000 FOR LIFE
      House/Senate $174,00​0 FOR LIFE
      Speaker of the House $223,500 FOR LIFE
      Majority/Minority Leaders $193,400 FOR LIFE
      Teacher $40,065
      Soldier DEPLOYED IN AFGHANISTAN $38,000
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  • not going to tell you

    Just want to say that this is not an outrage im currently in afghanistan as im typing (yes im for real we took IDF like two days ago) and im still reciving combat pay and this new policy makes it so military personnel in places such as Kuwiat, where we almost never get shot at these days, no longer recive it while those in Afghanistan who still get shot at will continue to recive combat pay just to put that out there for all who know little of how this truly affects our overseas pay.

  • Matty

    Damn you Obama! POGs need to buy Burger King daily at their Super FOBs!

  • MGK

    yes our pres doesn’t want to pay combat pay for our troops. But he will gladly celebrate muslim holidays.
    So you tell me where his mind is ok.

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  • Rene Provencher

    Pyle, calm the fuck down. We all did our jobs. Bitch to Congress they are the ones that just cut travel Pay! Bitch at them. President asks, they tell him no! You do your years, be lucky your alive. My buddies are still 19 and 20, 21 and 22 yrs old! They never got older! Don’t tell me to get out my coloring book! Go to your local DAV and tell them you need help brother, cause you do! Stop wasting your life whining about something we can’t control! CONGRESS!

  • WA Russell

    Pogues – quit crying.

  • lena

    Listen any military member deployed has a right to combat pay, they are at risk, not to mention the hardship deployments cause to their families. I have a Marine Son, Air Force Son and Army Son in law all have served in Afghan or Iraq those deployed to other areas deserve that combat pay just as much as my boys. God bless all of our Military!

  • lena

    Rich you are a moron, every time someone speaks out about Obama some very ignorant people play the race card, Admit it the man is no good! Even dems are starting to really dislike him. I don’t care black white blue or green his color don’t matter his arrogance and lack of respect for the people of this country matters!

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